CTownTBoyz

Sweet bug!

That's called 'Sheeping'; low-end behavior. I'd say lately my pet peeve is texting and driving; and it's really dangerous.

Actually Don, it can't be "none of the above" as the question clearly states: Choose the best answer to the following scenario.... Catch ya.

Indeed, X100

Ensure that the shank is on plain with the thread post; if you look at the thread from hook to post it should be level. If the thread is angled up or down it will either loosen your half hitch and / or wrap as you spin the hook. Your problem also becomes more problematic with curved hooks; but the same rule applies.

Here's one.... Choose the best answer to the following scenario.... You are fishing a large spring creek in September. The creek is populated by mostly Rainbow Trout. It is a warm sunny day; cloudless. The water is clear and there are fish rolling here and there, and often the rise forms seem fairly aggressive, yet they don't always create a splash or bubble. There are only a few bugs on the water, and nothing larger than a size twenty. Despite the clear warm conditions, it seems as if is raining at times, as something is hitting the water that creates a rain-drop type disturbance on the surface. The fish are likely eating something from the order 1]_______ and the best fly would be some type of 2]________ immitaion. a. 1] Lamniformes 2] Minnow b. 1] Ephemeroptera 2] Blue Winged Olive c. 1] Plecoptera 2] Golden Stone Fly d. 1] Orthoptera 2] Grasshopper e. 1] Hemiptera 2] Backswimmer

The Parachute style of hackle was initially designed as a Mayfly pattern for use on rainy days. The idea is that the Mayfly, as it emerges, takes longer to dry its wings when its raining rather than on a dry day; the pattern thus rides lower water achieving said result. If I am not mistaken, I believe Lafontaine explained the patterns construction and origin in one of his books (can't remember which one). When I fish Mayflies, I use parachutes, klinks, no hackles, spinners (when necessary) or comparaduns (my fave for picky fish). Catskill style ties are ok, but the aforementioned patterns are far better IMO. The exception would be to fishing Wulff style flies (Catskill style tie) for fast water situations, however, Wulff patterns are more of attractors and don't really qualify.

The traditional wet came first, although every time I think of the the Royal Coachman, the Royal Wulff always comes to mind. It's a beautiful fly, and if there was ever a fly that is fly fishing, it's the Royal Coachman; even non-anglers recognize it. I'm going to tie one this weekend, in fact, it could make for a fun thread....Royal Coachman Pics, and Variations Therein. And they're not an easy tie at all.

Is that on the Harris or Gordon?

@ Toolman Are you refering to these posts... "I fail to see how many of the posts in this thread have anything to do with the original posters topic." "Some folks sure have a lot to say about nothing." @ BBT, SD When you're using the Royal Coachman are you using a Royal Wulff, or the traditional pattern? Cool either way, I think I will fish one of those next year somewhere. It is kind of like taking a vintage car out for a spin.....on the level of a Jaguer E-Type or 289 Mustang Fast Back.

As I said: "Fly fishing itself is about challenging the angler to catch fish using more difficult methods, and there is a code amongst anglers to use certain methods at certain times, or to limit the tools one uses in the process. This in all areas of fishing, the Tyee club on the Campbell, a true Grand Slam (Flies only-no bait or scent), the 20/20 club, and with cutts the code is no indicators. I'm not saying you can't do it, obviously it is an angler's choice, the same as it their choice to bait fish or whatever.....but there is also a code or honor to consider-that extends from respect within the sport / tools to respect for your quarry." Don't mix fly fishing and elitism with traditions in the sport. Most of what certain fly fishers consider elitist is not elitist, but is simply guidelines that fashion respect for other fishers, and the fish. People label these unwritten codes as elitist because it doesn't fit into their gung-ho I do as I please attitude. Every sport has these types of aspects.....and every sport has people that rebel against these traditions. If you don't believe in them fine, but more often than not these codes are there for all players in the game; fish and fisher..... Cutthroats are so 'user friendly' that you don't need to go that far. And it is about respect, not 'elitism'. Respect for the fish; cutthroats live in an extreme environment, have only a few months to feed, are susceptible to being caught over, and over, and over again with ease (as is evident by the multi scars many of them possess.....amazing considering I almost always only see fly fisherman where I fish.....must have forgot to bend their barbs down). When they're eating nymphs its almost like a sanctuary for them, that's one part of the code. I'll save someone the response.... "Then why do fish for them if you think it's so bad?" I fished 2 (3 hour) days for cutts on mountain streams this summer; that was enough. Too many people for the most part, and I've done it, I was fishing those streams when they were devoid of people and I really believe it's someone else’s turn now, I've been given my piece, no need for gluttony. And so I leave them alone for the most part, pulling the fly away just before that cutt grabs it, or just hike the banks looking for edible plants and mushrooms-something I have really got into in the last few years. But when I did fish them we knew when enough was enough, and respected the fish by limiting the methods....you can call that elitist; but you're wrong, and you don't get it. If I can predict the future about the streams on the East slopes, and what has happened in the last 10 or so years I'll say this. As populations of anglers grow and people continue to hammer the resource (as would be expected), eventually the regulations (C & R) won't be enough to sustain the resource, mortality will inevitably reach a tipping point, probably sooner rather than later considering other environmental factors. When this happens you will have only so many rod days perhaps or maybe it will be 'fly fishing only' (see BC Regs definition). And then Jayhad et al. can put their kids on their knees and say "I remember back in the day when we used to spin fish with our fly rods....now them rivers are just full of elitists" The discussion was over, until Jayhad sparked the fire again. And as usual when I fight back I get accused of being elitist, along with whatever other profanities. Sorry guys, occasionally I wade into the kiddie pool, I should know better.

You missed the point I made... "If the argument is about 'not limiting one's self' then why stop at a fly rod, if you're going to use an indicator to fish for steelhead; why not just use a drift fishing rod? If the argument is about catching more fish with indicator /eggs vs. a swung fly (which is hardly true), then why stop at egg flies, use bait.....etc." I'm trying to figure out where you're coming from. You mentioned "Bruce Lee & his philosophy is probably the best analogy that I have seen to explain how I approach things", and then "I think applying "philosophies to it takes some of the enjoyment out of it. If I wanted competition, rules and codes I would go back to golf." There are all kinds of rules and codes in fly fishing, some are legal - some aren't. I guess if you follow Bruce Lee's philosophy; it's about evolution...no doubt that evolution applies to one's own inner understanding of lawful, written, and unwritten codes proper.

Sums it up perfectly.

Indeed, someone is gaining out of this new plan. Perhaps someone at ALGB was paid by the big beer companies or something of that nature. I heard an interview this morning with an ALGB board member; she wouldn't answer certain questions and admitted she hadn't consulted with anyone in the sales industry regarding this mandate. It makes me think of the current laws about Marijuana. There is always the argument about 'protecting our children' and weed being 'a gateway drug' even though we all know that is pure BS. Why is Marijuana illegal? Because Lawyers, Law Enforcement, and Organized Criminals want it that way because they all gain from Marijuana being a banned substance; grant money for cops and prosecutors, and drug money for defense Lawyers and HA, FOB, FOBK et al. If you see some strange or unjust law; don't look at who stands to lose, look at who stands to gain and you'll find the culprit. Sorry to stray from the topic, but on that note, I'm looking forward to one of my own homemade Ciders when I get home....I'll think I'll binge drink 20 or so this weekend.

It's at the back of the regs; it should be in the Angling definitions in the front however...... fly fishing … angling with a line to which only an artificial fly is attached (floats, sinkers, or attracting devices may not be attached to the line when fishing is restricted to "fly fishing only”).

Nice picks for mountain streams.......you must have been one of those guys I saw on the Racehorse.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/201...ontent-ban.html Strong beer is bad.....

See my list of flies, and you can tell your friends what to use.

Indeed/agreed, the philosophy can be applied to so many things. Language comes to mind, and slang.....slang becomes a part of the language eventually as the metaphorically salty words find there way into mainstream discussion and eventually the dictionary (although I hope lol, imo etc. don't ever get there). I don't use indicators anymore (only because I don't fish the Bow much), but I never used them for Cutts because I've never had to, or chose to ....no matter what time of the year. I have also never been in a situation where I had to use them for clients or friends (such as yourself Uber), that said, I fully understand the need to do so in said circumstance. I hope one day Alberta adopts the fly fishing only policy like BC. It's great, and does a lot to take the inevitable increase of pressure off the resource, just imagine if you could use indicators or lead on the Wiggy.....the Bulls are already sitting ducks, kinda of like the Cutts on the Livingstone/Oldman. I do however, believe that evolution of the entity of Fly Fishing can go a variety of ways.....some more true to the sport than others. Skating stones in the middle of the night on the Bow, or creating incredible patterns out of foam are two things that come to mind that have evolved the sport in the last ten years. Even the SJW itself was a pattern that really changed the Bow (and the fly itself evolved from the red floss/tinsel original into the wire forms). A friend of mine floated the Bow with Doug Swisher and his wife in 99'. To the amazement of my friend, Swisher and wife fished dries blind all day in the wicked heat of mid August, at a time when every guide on the Bow was dredging worms on the bottom. He told them they should fish with with and indicator/nymph, but they preferred not to.....and had a 30+ fish day. Evolution in the purest sense. About Cutts specifically, the river fishery for Cutts in this province is very user friendly and indicators cross the line (for me).....you don't need them. I swear to you- you don't....and I'm not trying to be condescending. Is evolution do what is ever necessary,(use an indicator because I can)? Is evolution discovery with in a set of lawful rules, or the unwritten code within a community?

I heard SJWs work well in the Gap on the Oldman in May...

If the argument is about 'not limiting one's self' then why stop at a fly rod, if you're going to use an indicator to fish for steelhead; why not just use a drift fishing rod? If the argument is about catching more fish with indicator /eggs vs. a swung fly (which is hardly true), then why stop at egg flies, use bait.....etc. If it's all about numbers and doing what is ever necessary that is fine if that's your prerogative....but it's good to live by a code. Fly fishing itself is about challenging the angler to catch fish using more difficult methods, and there is a code amongst anglers to use certain methods at certain times, or to limit the tools one uses in the process. This in all areas of fishing, the Tyee club on the Campbell, a true Grand Slam (Flies only-no bait or scent), the 20/20 club, and with cutts the code is no indicators. I'm not saying you can't do it, obviously it is an angler's choice, the same as it their choice to bait fish or whatever.....but there is also a code or honor to consider-that extends from respect within the sport / tools to respect for your quarry. This is not just my opinion either. Go tell the tried and true Steelheaders in this city the argument made in that video about 'insanity' and the 'fish of a thousand casts'.....that's golden (and shows a clear lack of understanding of fly fishing for Steelhead). For sure, you can be in the Jim Teeny club....stoning Steelhead, and strategically drifting flies into unsuspecting fishes mouths, or you can be in Lani Waller's club...and wait patiently (the real theme of this entire discussion) for that life changing moment when the Steelhead takes your skated dry fly.......nothin' wrong with class.

Seems there is a few of you that can't take a joke......or debate. Sorry to hurt your pride.....I didn't realize you were so sensitive.

True, and if you know how to read water in a cutty stream, you know it is never necessary to use an indicator. Keep at it Beedhead, skill comes with practice practice practice.

Two dry flies.....that's just greedy. Chernobyl Ant Skid Beeeatch Klinkhammers Pink Thing Double Bunny