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Great pictures ! It is very special place. The first time I was up there I came around a small tree and a HUGE bull was standing right there 6 feet away..I thought I was dead. But he just looked at me and then started eating while I backed away ..and then run to change my underwear !
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Thanks for sharing. You just never know what the mountains will throw at you !
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Totally awesome. Thanks for sharing this. I suspect you thing there are still a few cutties in that lake.
What is the weight capacity the raft can hold ?
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Good news !
There were alreadyin thousands in the Shuswap already by August 10th. It was nice to see them.
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Thanks for sharing this.Really enjoyed the pictures. Nice to here the fish are doing well in the lake.
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The fish was caught in an area where they are not stocked. Take a look at the fish and it's features. No wear on fins. Alot of times large brood stock have worn fins from circling/rubbing the tank. The fish is a perfect WILD specimen. Harps, it was caught in your neck of the Alberta woods
So I guess your saying the Oldman res....
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Please don't be one of those Brood stock !
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Please give us a report.. Hopefully you get a chance to fish the Red deer lakes.
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Very nice pics ! Thanks for sharing..
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There are the resources and the money to do it all. We could have tigers in a few selected lakes.
And yes we should be stocking native Rainbows to lakes especially in the Athabasca watershed lakes.
To me you will only get this done by a strong lobby through Fish and Game .There are efw government people now and they are up to there eyeballs in work.
but if you believe in something push hard...
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The current regulations for the Upper and Lower Kananaskis Lakes is "Open all year - trout (except bull trout) limit 3; Cutthroat and Rainbow over 30cm; Bait Ban". I would like to propose a regulation change for 2011 to state that it should be "Open all year - trout (except bull trout) limit 1; Cutthroat and Rainbow over 40cm; Bait Ban". I believe this will create a high quality fishery.
I have printed out petitions to make this regualtion change happen with your help. If you wish to help me on this I have petitions at Southbow, Fish Tales, Wholesale Sports (Calgary), and Westwinds. If you like you can visit one of these shops and sign your name in support. If you can't make it to any of these locations and still want to contribute, you can send an email to: srd.infocent@gov.ab.ca OR you can send a letter to: Fisheries Management Branch, Alberta Sustainable Resources Development, Great West Life Building, 9920 108 Street, Edmonton Alberta T5K 2M4
I have heard other opinions on what these regulations should state, and find this to be the best approach. It is hard to keep everyone happy. But in the long run I believe this will really help things out. If you have any concerns or opinions send me a PM.
Sounds like a good idea. Would stocking numbers need to be reduced ? What is the food supply like as I always thought of the lakes as having food supplies ?
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Love Mr Chan. He gives any show respectability....
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There are several spots a few hours from Calgary west of Sundre that we have ridden to. In particular Dormer and Eagle lakes near the Ya-Ha-Tinda Ranch are in great trail ride country. Eagle lake has some monster brook trout, it is about a 4 km ride or hike but can be difficult to fish from shore so a boat ( belly, inflatable raft etc) of some sort would be beneficial. You can also check the streams and rivers in that area including the upper reaches of the Red Deer river as well as the Panther river....usually don't publish names but these should be far enough and high enough to keep the lazy hords away...enjoy...sk
Cuts in Eagle , Brookies in Dormer
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After attending Roundtables ect..Seems to me Don the way to get things done that we want for better fisheries is to hijack the ACA. They could do alot to improve fisheries if they were forced in that direction.SRD has no staff to do anything.
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Hey y'all
Pretty well everywhere in the National Parks regs that say July 7th, should actually say July 1st.
Figured I would share this in case your friendly VRC rep inadvertantly forgets to mention the typo when you buy your license and get you copy of the regs brochure.
PGK - you may start fishing on July 7th - LOL -
Rob~
Help me out with this.. I noticed and date changes , I am sure only a few locals knew about the changes .. Lakes in Banff and Jasper that usually open Saturday of the May long weekend but actually opened up earlier like Sunday the 16th in Jasper and what the 18th in Banff ?
What is happening for July 1st because the regs I saw were correct for those dates ..Same as last year.
This what I have....
Open Seasons, Special Restrictions and Closed Waters
Banff National Park (BNP)
OPEN SEASONS
Year Round
Bow River - from Bow Lake outlet to east park boundary. No ice fishing on the Bow River. .
May 15 to August 15
Owen Creek
May 18 to September 7
Ghost Lake, Johnson Lake and adjacent inflow streams and beaver ponds, Lake Minnewanka, Two Jack Lake, Vermilion Lakes (3) and adjacent inflow streams and beaver ponds.
July 1 to August 31
All tributaries of the Bow River; North Saskatchewan River and its tributaries; Cascade River and its tributaries except the lakes upstream of Lake Minnewanka; the inflow stream adjacent to Johnson Lake and the beaver ponds upstream of Johnson Lake.
July 7 to October 31
Gloria Lake, Leman Lake, Marvel Lake, Owl Lake, Terrapin Lake, Spray River, and associated tributaries above the Spray Reservoir.
July 1 to November 1
All other waters except closed waters.
SPECIAL RESTRICTIONS
Possession limit of 1 trout on Johnson Lake and adjacent inflow streams and beaver ponds.
Zero possession limit for cutthroat trout and bull trout.
Motor boats allowed on Lake Minnewanka only.
CLOSED WATERS - Year Round
Castleguard River - that upper portion of the river located in the Zone I - Special Preservation Area.
Cave and Basin marsh system.
Fish Lakes - the two Fish Lakes nearest campsite Mo 18.
Forty Mile Creek - vicinity of the water intake reservoir.
Lake Agnes.
Luellen Lake - outflow stream from fisheries' boundary markers, downstream to the confluence of the outflow stream and Johnston Creek.
Marvel Lake - downstream from line formed between fisheries' boundary markers to confluence of Marvel and Bryant Creeks.
All tributaries and associated lakes in the Clearwater and Siffleur River systems, excluding Isabella Lake.
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Jasper National Park (JNP)
OPEN SEASONS
Rivers and Streams
Year Round
Sunwapta River.
April 1 to September 7 and October 31 to March 31
Fiddle River, Maligne River (below Maligne Canyon), Miette River, Rocky River, Snake Indian River, Snaring River.
August 1 to October 1
Maligne River (Fly fishing only) from a point 420 m downstream from the Maligne Lake Outlet bridge to Medicine Lake including that part of Medicine Lake within a 180 m radius of a point in the middle of the Maligne River where it enters Medicine Lake.
Athabasca River
(Note: the Athabasca River has three fisheries management zones.)
Zone 1: From Athabasca Falls upstream.
Year Round.
Zone 2: From 12 Mile Bridge (Km 22, Hwy 16 East) upstream to Athabasca Falls.
April 1 to September 7 and October 31 to March 31
Zone 3: From 12 Mile Bridge (Km 22, Hwy 16 East) downstream to east park boundary, including all side channels, Pocahontas Ponds and other connected wetlands.
June 1 to September 7 and October 31 to March 31
July 1 to September 7
All other rivers and streams except closed waters.
Lakes
May 16 to September 7
Annette Lake, Beaver Lake, Dragon Lake, Long Lake, Lorraine Lake, Moab Lake, Mona Lake, No Name Lake (Hwy 93 south Km 48), Pyramid Lake, Lakes Three, Four and Five in the Valley of the Five.
May 16 to September 30
Maligne Lake, Talbot Lake, Edna Lake.
July 1 to October 31
Medicine Lake (Fly fishing only).
July 1 to November 1
All other lakes except closed waters.
CLOSED WATERS - Year Round
Maligne Lake Outlet,/Maligne River (the portion including the part of Maligne Lake within a 100 m radius of a point in the middle of the Maligne River where it leaves Maligne Lake, to a point 420 m downstream from the Maligne Lake Outlet bridge).
Jacques Lake and Jacques Lake Outlet stream between Jacques Lake and the Rocky River.
Mile 9 (Km 15) Lake, Hwy 16 (East).
All streams emptying into Amethyst Lake.
That part of Amethyst Lake situated within a 180 m radius from a point in the middle of the outlet stream from the southeast end of Amethyst Lake.
That part of the Astoria River situated between Amethyst Lake and a point 400 m downstream from Amethyst Lake.
Osprey Lake.
The outlet stream from Moab Lake to its junction with the Whirlpool River including that part of Moab Lake situated within a 180 m radius of a point in the middle of the outlet stream where it leaves Moab Lake.
The outlet stream from Beaver Lake to its junction with the Maligne Lake Road.
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Cheers !
Sounds like it was good one .
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Item 42 $ 75.00
Uberfly , Trailhead and Myself will hook up with our guide..sorry host and go together ..I will buy the beers after !
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I Bid 60 dolllars on Item 42. Peter you can join us our conditioning coach !
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As a community we are asking people to put back the big trout. We have 99% voluntary compliance on that as once someone catches a monster on a spinning or fly rod...they want MORE of the same :-).
As for your first sentence...I would expect anyone calling themselves experienced to at least show some respect to proper catch and release techniques.
What is the most sad is how can we expect any catch and release regs to work in public waters if people don't respect their fish at home?
Sorry...I know to most this seems like a rant...which it is certainly but also I hope that some people will read the catch and release article and say honestly to themselves...
1) I do this all already.
2) I could do a few points better
3) Man I suck and need to start doing these things.
Then hopefully we can save a few fish that were intended to be released and caught again.
Cheers
Sun
If you want the big ones to be released ..Ban bait..
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Item 42... I bid 50.00 !
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WHERE THE HELL DID THE 11 MILLION GO, GENIUS!? They didn't make any money off it! They SPENT IT on research and management. That's called NON-PROFIT. Holy piss.
Again you can't read ..never said they weren't Non Profit although 16 per cent for adminstration WOW , what I said was the 8.3 million dollars or nearly 75 per cent of there budget is from hunters and fisherman who have NO say in where that money should go..In otherwords it was not donated by them willingly. And if they were given the choice the majority of the funds it would not go the ACA.
Why are we spending this money and not using some of that money to keep officers on the ground to protect what we have ?
The REAL management is being eroded in cuts to government biologists and hatchery staff, more and more Alberta anglers are spending their money in other provinces. Management had improved in the last few years and it had NOTHING to do with the ACA. We are trying to protect what we have and make it better..that was the whole point of the thread but again you would rather continue with your personal attacks and tell us all that we know nothing. When you take shots at Don ,who has done more for fisheries in the Province than the ACA it truly shows you what you are.. Done.....
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WHAT!? You have no idea what you're talking about. The ACA is nonprofit! Do you have any idea whatsoever what the ACA is? You just lost all your credibility. Go back and READ (R-E-A-D) what I said about classified waters licencing and the habitat conservation trust fund. If you can't understand who does the work, and who does the management in your province, why did you even start this thread? F&W isn't being gutted, not nearly as bad as in BC at least, you're panicking over nothing. And once you figure out that an ACA job is just as good if not better than an ASRD job, you'll be a lot more sound mentally. Until that time, stop blathering about which you do not know! You're just a cheapskate who won't pay for fisheries management.
Last thing I will says about this to you because it is you who doesn't understand what was being said..
Recent budget for ACA just over 11 million dollars ..
Sources ...
Revenue By Source
Hunting $5,050,905
Fishing $3,361,104
Partner $1,769,275
Other $944,416
Total: $11,125,700
Non Profit ? Do you think the 8.3 million dollars was donated willingly by hunters and fisherman...
Those revenues were directed there NOT DONATED ...
16 per cent of funds admin budget.. ...
ACA better than ASRD ? Cheapskate ?
Im a done discussing this with someone who clearily demonstrates that they don't have a clue.
Enjoy the Arctic..
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Stick to it then. I don't give up my opinions, you shouldn't either. But you're wrong about me, and I'm through defending myself to you. Your pessimism about continuing the decline is all I need to see. Classic albertan. It will continue unless you do something about it.
Out...
In the end you never offered any concrete solutions to improve fisheries in Alberta.
You don't get the financial end of things. In otherwords everything comes with price and my whole point behind this thread is the F and W is being gutted and we are losing top fisheries scientist positions. We need to keep these positions but monies from users such as anglers are being used to fund the ACA and its big budget bureaucracy. The problem with the ACA is they are not addressing the priorites and those on the ACA certainly aren't getting it. We could raise angling license fees
but as Smitty points out it doesn't help if the money goes to general revenue.
There are things that could be done to on increase revenue and fishing opportunites and that money could be direct back to the priorites. By the way protecting native species and fish habitat costs money,
it's a low priority compared to health care..doesn't matter who the government is .. You just don't get that !
Enjoy the Arctic when you get back let me know ...You and I can hook up and head into one of British Columbia's and one of Canada top flyfishing lakes ,Fortress and catch some BROOKIES .
Did I say that..sorry that was shot.. I am sure you would turned down the invite as you in light of your opinion on exotics but we can send you a picture to Tuktoyaktuk.
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I don't agree with you, and you have no intelligent responses to my arguments, so you flap off about how I have an agenda? Classic. I don't have a damn agenda. If you've got something better than rhetoric and BS for a reply, I suggest you use it now.
NO, I don't think we should be taking a threatened species from the wild and killing it so we can raise their offspring in the hatchery, scew up their genetics and plant them in barren lakes so fat joe from edmonton can bonk them in the face. Where the HELL are your priorities? On one han you tell us that you want to help native species, on the other, you want to domesticate them and stock them. You can't have it both ways!? Pretty straight forward!
I guaran-damn-tee that if we stocked a barren lake full of whatever inbred strain of rainbow AB uses now, and athabows, in the same density, there is no way in hell you would be able to tell which fish was which, they'll all be 3lb rockets in a year, so why the hell does it matter!? Fat joe is gonna have the same dumb smile on his face and he doesn't care what strain he's catching.
YES, I can say stocking kokanee in open systems is a bad idea, if you were actually half educated on the subject you'd understand why competitive interaction and evolutionary traits have nearly extirpated arctic grayling from the Williston area. In areas where kokanee are native, there is a distinct fish compostion structure that repeats itself over and over. If you had any experience with BC fisheries, you would know that. When you dump kokanee into a system where they can naturalize, they're going to screw something up, and that's a promise.
So move from your personal attacks and why don't you tell us the way it should be.
Explain how fisheries should managed , what you would do and how you are going to pay for all.
Because again from everything I have heard from you there would be little or no waters left to fish.
You be the boss and explain how it should be and again remember who is paying your wages !
Happy B-day Dekkard..
in General Chat - Not Fishing Related (NFR)
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Have a great B-day ! Hope you land one of those BIG Rainbows !