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A buddy of mine was at a lake deep in BNP and the fishing was so good he decided to stay the night at the lake rather than walkout the 12 km.. Fished the the next morning when a warden showed up..my buddy told him he could walk out the night before because his foot was to sore from the hike in. The warden laughed and told him to leave by 2 pm and then rode off..
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So several of us where having this discussion over the weekend regarding how far we have or would hike in and out of a lake in a day. Of course the the terrain and the fitness of an individual plays a role in determining what one would challenge. We kinda came to the conclusion that about
3 to 4 hours in and 3 to 4 hours out would be the very maximum so generally about 16 km return.
One guy said he is fine walking in the dark with headlights.
Anyone have their own stories or thoughts.
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Here we go again!!! See previous threads.................The Olympus and Pentax are about even from every ones point of view. I personally have an older Pentax, but I did see the new Olympus in this weeks London Drugs flyer... on sale!
Sorry must have missed that thread.. thabnks for the input..maybe a suggested retailer with the best prices that I could pass on.
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I have been asked the following and I have no idea so I am requesting input for those in the know.
What is a decent , not to expensive digital camera for taking pictures of fish and mountains.
I believe the person asking me staed it has to be waterproof.
Suggestions ?
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My condolences. All the best to you at this time.
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So someone has asked me this question and I just don't have the answer.Maybe some knows
but is there a service which operates in Banff National Park that packs in and out camping gear to a requested site ? Kinda like a Sherpa guide I guess.
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Tim,
The mtgs here and in MH are "local area" meetings with Terry. (Thanks Terry!) Major items are taken from our meetings to the regional level and up to Shangri La.
The Edmonton powwow is the final provincial top-level meeting at which major decisions are made or at least given informal blessings by special interest groups from across Alberta--well except southern Alberta.
I still don't see why there could not be two "provincial" meetings. The "votes" at Edmonton are not official anyway...what happens still has to be approved by the minister op advice from ADMs etc. Have two provincial meetings would be better for us at least.
Edmonton can argue all it wants about the need for one provincial meeting. Bless their hearts it is indeed on Saturday, but that still means a minimum of two days for folks from our way. (Unless SRD can "Beam me up Scotty," leaving Saturday morning is not an option. Lord knows they can make money disappear so why they can't beam us up there...
) Working guys can't go if they have to take time off work. Even OFs find it onerous...and it is not our age. I just don't like spending that sort of time and money driving...time mainly. In any case, I could not go this year anyway because of other commitments. We appreciate the support we got for Police Lake last year. But a few of us are very unhappy with the current minister and TOTAL lack of action on other items we've pushed for. Bloody waste of breath and ink.
In his eyes, we are personae non gratae down here.
Clive
Why not have the meeting in Red Deer ?
If not I can stick up for the Calgary folks since most of my time is spent fishing in West and South of Calgary anyway.
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Don..Can you check the date on that as April 12th is Easter Sunday so I can't see it being that date.
The date is Satruday April 18th !
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The Spring Provincial Fisheries Roundtable is coming up. How about you folks send someone from Calgary?
Get someone from your clubs/organizations to show up. It would be a shame not to see Calgary not represented again.
Don
Copied from my invite:
Hello Round Table Participants,
This notice is to confirm that the next Fisheries Management Round Table Meeting will be April 12, 2009 from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm, at the Greenwood Inn and Suites, 4485 Gateway Blvd, Edmonton.
Lunch and Refreshments will be provided. It is important that we know the number of attendees in advance to ensure the room is prepared and that the right amount of food is ordered
Please RSVP by March 12th.
Please forward your response to Debra Drummond (Debra.Drummond@gov.ab.ca) or (Tanya.Rushcall@gov.ab.ca) or call either of these ladies at 780-427-7743 (for long distance, dial the Rite number at 310-000 780-427-7743.
Information will continue to be posted on the the Round Table Website for your convenience at:
http://www.srd.gov.ab.ca/fishwildlife/fish...roundtable.aspx
Thank you
Debra Drummond
Administrative Support
Fisheries and Wildlife Management
Phone (780) 427-7743
Fax: (780) 422-9559
Don..Can you check the date on that as April 12th is Easter Sunday so I can't see it being that date.
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If anyone has any information on hiking and fishing these areas of Banff NP please please let me know. Messages would be fine if you want to keep the information private. Just trying to put together some info from those who have been in these areas and have some insight from there experiences.
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...heli-fishing for Golden Trout on the Cline River by Nordegg...looks pretty cool mang!
There is an isolated population in one of the parks but those who know of it would die before they would tell any one.
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Anyone ever hiked into this area and done a little fishing ?
Never have checked out but have been meaning too.
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By a few hrs. do you mean 2 or 3 or more. I would like to fish these lakes this summer. Tks.
Thjere is a really good trail to the lake..all flat ..you cxan hike to the base of th lake in 2 to 3 hrs ..you could bike there in an hour or less.. but from the base ..you need to hike up the side of a mountain..20 minutes to an hour depending on the shape your in..the lake is located in a mountain bowl and very high alitude..
Also you must ford the highwood river at the start ..
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You can walk to the foot of the lake in a few hours from the main hwy..As mentioned the hike from the valley up to the the lake is very steep and you want to pack lightly. Never saw any fish over 12 inches as the lake is not that productive but there may be a few bigger ones..There are a few dams at the bottomin valley and they have lots of nice 10 inch fish that you can sight cast to. Let us know how you make out..
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Well, I am renting a cabin in Jasper for a few days and was hoping to get some good fishing in for some native rainbows and bulls. I will be going in mid-July. The Maligne River opens August 1st, so that is not an option. My cabin is near the Miette and Athabasca Rivers, and I probably will give them a try. I might also try Maligne Lake. Anyone have any ideas about this area?
You won't be far from lakes just outside NP such as Wildhorse.
Maligne is the best choice but if want to hike Geraldine would be worth exploring.
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Interesting discussion for sure - I could go on for hours with practical pros and cons but for now its nice to see folks thinking through the angles anyway.
I sent an email to the LLYK Chief Park Warden two years ago posing a difficult question - (considering the Parks mandate which is to preserve the "naturally" occuring environment) - At which point does something un-naturally introduced to the park environment become a park asset as a result of its historical and/or cultural value ?
For example - it is illegal to remove artifacts (early CP stirling silver plates, forks etc etc) from the old buried dumpsite behind the Banff Springs hotel because those items existence is interpreted as being of cultural and historical value, irregardless of the fact there is nothing natural about how they were introduced to the Park.
Can the same argument be posed regarding Brookies - what quantifyers would be applied to measure the fishes historical and cultural value to the Park ? At which point does it's cultural and historical signifigance outweigh the fact it was un-naturally introduced in terms of it's value assesment ? (is it a measure of potential impact on naturally existing elements that defines it's status ?)
Why is a car driven by a Park Warden in the 30's that was left abandoned considered trash and subject to removal from the Park, meanwhile the cabin it is parked beside is protected from tampering or removal under threat of criminal prosecution, despite also being introduced (built) in the 30's
Anyway it is questions like these that befuddle the "powers that be" which is likely why the keep two fish rule for brookies and other non-native is such a "middle of the road" wishy-washy position for the Park to take. The solution must be proceeded by the resolution of the cultural vs natural question which is very hard to define in an organization which has a mandate which is somewhat self contradictory. The mandate - "To protect the natural environment vs., for the enjoyment of Canadians" is in itself an enigma. makes for good fireside chat though.
When you consider one of the Park's recent inititives, which is a system-wide eradication using poisoning to recreate a truly natural area for purposes like examining the effect of global warming and studying that water system in its truly natural state, lends itself to a more proactive approach, the debate continues, but with real consequences in the balance. Still haven't figured where I sit on this one, luckily I am nothing more than an interested observer, so the burden of these decisions rest with experts not us (luckily the Park is big into public forums and collecting imput so if I did have a formed opinion I know it would at minimum be heard by the powers that be)
Excellent insight ..well though out and some great points.
Are you able to hook up on June 30th ?
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Brook Trout in some NP lakes are of the Coaster variety..They should be maintained as this is an important genetic source if ever needed.
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Mud lake has fish Birchy - For a number of years a local guy was suspected of cleaning it out along with many other small area lakes (freezer stockin' poacher scum) - he has been gone for two years now so numbers should better this year than they have for quite a while - The on-going local debate is whether Herbert is devoid or not - some believe it is, and some believe that those guys are just not good anglers LOL. I haven't bothered fishing it in over ten years but a few of us yokels have decided to put the issue to rest this summer. (there was an alkaline rumour going around so I read the ph from a few spots and found nothing unusual) Its right next to the road so its kind of left to the the chuck and splash crowd.
Birchy, if your gonna pick up a parks license let me know with a pm when your coming, you seem like a fun guy and there is definetly some options other than mud nearby (depending on when you come, sometimes a few xtra clicks are all that stands between a good day and a stellar day). You'll find many other small deep alpine lakes in the area that have cutty pops but the biggies never seem to break the 6 - 8 inch range, its because they are supporting Brookie pops that never really come up to the surface. They can be caught if your good at searching depths.
Wardens hate the Brookies (invaisive non-native) and they encourage killing your limit so I occasionlly keep em for a dinner, always a treat after a long day out.
Pipestoneflyguy..Would you mind if I tag along? I can bring the snacks.
Wardens might hate the Brookies but Parks Canada was quite happy to use a picture of a couple of kids holding Brookies
on their website. It's time we moved ahead and treat the brookies as native. As the website states without stocking most of these lakes would have been void of fish so even the Cuts are not really native. Nice write on the history of stocking.
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Mud Lake it is boys!! Woooooo!
Just have to wait a couple of weeks for the opening.. Maybe a group get together ?
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It's not an Athabasca Rainbow !
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MissinTheBow ? When is the last time you were at Mud ? My sources say it no longer has fish.
Anyone ever tried Herbert in the general area as Mud ?
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Nice to see there are others who like to HUNT for Brookies..
Some good info here..there are a few other spots to go after bigger sized fish ..it all depends if you want to hit still or moving waters. There are still a few BIG fish in OWL but that can be hit and miss and it's a long hike for a miss.
By the way does anyone know where Small lake is ?
Drop me a line if want more info... if you have a Brookie tourney and the date works I will head south !
How Far Would Hike In A Day To Go Fishing ?
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Some great stories , thanks guys.