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This argument really isn't going to go anywhere. Both sides, especially the anti-human contribution side (in this case specifically, not in general) like to say that their interpreted data are "facts." Problem with that is, as we all know their is more than one way to read data. The exact same data can be used just as convincingly to support an infinite number of hypotheses. Another problem with this argument is that it does not take into account the accuracy of the various scientific methods used to gather and assess the data. Clive's original post supports this. Simply saying my "facts" say you or your data are wrong is not a meaningful discussion into this. Philosophically this is a major problem with science because it is based on induction which, in terms of proving something, has some serious flaws. Induction also fails when data that is contrary to the conclusion is excluded. Again, this happens on both sides of the coin and is not targeted at any group specifically. So if arguing which view is absolutely right is really impossible, especially for people like us who are merely reading other people's publish work, what should we do about this issue. We live in a democratic society, I assume most people like that idea, and we believe in the democratic ideals. Therefore, does it not make sense that if the scientific community is overwhelming one-sided on an issue that we should trust in "the experts?" It is also important to remember that the burden of proof will always be placed on the person trying to swim upstream, but that those bold and risky predictions, while not proof or support in themselves, are really what forging human understanding is all about. There are several famous instances of a challenge to the status quo that have ultimately become accepted. For instance, the earth is round and not the center of the universe. One could argue that this means we shouldn't accept the dominant scientific opinion because it can be wrong. Which is true, but all that argument really accomplishes is stating that all science can be wrong. Which also is true. But over time, and study, and the interpretation of data and with the injection of new ideas our knowledge grows. And maybe, just maybe, we get one step closer to "the facts."

The problem with centralizing the thing is then you have people that might not really understand the situation/area/people and may not be the best to deal with the person. When you feel like you're getting no where and wasting valuable time when you are calm and not the one injured how is this system going to work when the person who calls in freaking out, impatient, and in serious need of help?

You're confusing the two issues though. People having gardens or laying hens is a good way to start personal accountability for your food and to increase local reliance. The reference to hunting not feeding all the city folk is because hunting will never be a viable system because our population is too large whereas if everyone had a garden that could at least alleviate a ton of our reliance on foreign fruits and vegetables. There are two levels to the issue. The first is a simple lifestyle choice and the second is part of a growing concern around global food prices and global interdependence.

Perhaps, for once, justice has been served.

I've heard a couple ridiculous complaints about 911 and its inefficiencies lately, which is a shame because we pay for it.

Awesome post and pics! Sounds like a great adventure!

Here are a couple more from today. I woke up today feeling sick and terrible. The only thing I could think of that might put a smile on my face was getting a line in the water. I had a great day that helped me forget about life's ills...for just a little while... This fish was pushing 20" and is my personal best Cutthroat to date. It put up one hell of a fight on my Scott 3 wt and my reel shrieked as line was taken. It was an exhilarating moment and an honour to get to release this trout to be caught again some other day.

I have absolutely fallen in love with Cutthroats this season. Something about hiking along a mountain river or stream and crossing icy waters in search of these eager feeders really strikes a chord with me and calms my mind and my soul.

Beauty Bows! thanks for posting.

If I could find a good deal on a Lamson LP1 I would take it, but most quality reels seem to have a drag system so I might as well factor the quality of said system into my decision. Besides, I fish mostly for cutties with my 3 wt and it is nice to have a bit of drag with a light tippet and an 18 incher on the other end. That being said, I definitely don't like the idea of being able to damage an important component of the real with a simple drop.

Thanks for the replies. Hopefully someone has some experience with the Ross Rhythm.

Wow, excellent photos! There's some big Northerns there...and moths...

Hey, I'm looking to get a new reel for my lightweight setup (3wt) and I was looking into both the Ross Rhythm and the Orvis Battenkill Barstock. Now, price isn't a big factor because I could get a hold of either for close to the same price, but performance definitely is. So, basically I'm looking for input on how these two reels stack up actually fishing. Things like durability, how do the drags compare, and smoothness of retrieval. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. I'm also open to other reel suggestions.

I think Wolfie is trying to say that when he asks a question or for help he wants honest and thorough help and/or answers, but he doesn't want salespeople to approach him making him feel pressured. He wants to be left alone, but wants them to be able to help him when needed. At least that's what I understood.

I've only been to Fish Tales once (I live in Red Deer) but it was probably the best service I've received.

It sucks that to verify records these amazing fish are killed for someone's glory. Not saying I wouldn't do the same with a world record fish on my hands, but there just has to be a better way.

Sounds like an amazing time. Great shots, that last brookie fin pic is intense!

The South Ram is a beautiful area. Lots of awesome hikes from the Hummingbirg Staging Area. I'm hoping to make the hike to Lost Guide next month, if not it will be my main "to-do" trip of next season.