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let me know.

But if it is...

I dunno.

I just watched a video of fly fishing at Tierra Del Fuego, in Argentina on the Rio Grande. Some 30-33 lbs are caught each year.

How about a rod Made from weed? Far out man.

A journal is excellent advice, thanks. I've heard it before but haven't thought of all the aspects of it as you explained. I have a decent memory but nothing compared to notes. Thanks also for the info on trout Flyslinger, it was precisely what I was wondering. Thanks albannachxcuileag for the book recommendation for The Trout and The Fly, sounds like the perfect title. I actually like dated or older books, preferably the 60's. I just watched a instructional DVD named 'The Underwater World of Trout Volume 2: Feeding Lies' and it was made by someone who asked themselves the same things I did when I wrote this question. It films and explains almost every detail of how salmonid move and the river they live in. Its almost entirely full of crystal clear underwater footage of river trout of all kinds. From the 'pecking order' as FS explained, to Trout "Yawning" and taking leaves and twigs intentionally. I was amazed at some of the things they explained. Trout use less energy to maintain position in fast, turbulent water then they do in slow moving water. Like a sh1thawk hovering in gusting wind by orienting itself alone, yet constantly. Trout facing downstream in reverse currents that would amaze even hydrologists. I can learn a lot from books and advice, thanks to the many who share their knowledge and experiences, yet nothing compares to seeing it with your own eyes. Seeing firsthand how fish feed and maintain position by obstructions has clarified so much of what I've been reading. Seeing a trout take something it knows isn't food in to its mouth, and spit it out, all undetectable by holding a rod 20' away, is amazing. All I can say is that after watching that video alone, my eyes are open. I'm kinda a nature nut and I love watching animals, aside from the zoo. lol. I think thats part of the appeal of Fly Fishing to me. Not only am I amidst a moving current among wild animals, but I can actually see and observe the fish in their environment. Although I love lake fishing, most of the time the fish seemingly appear for the abyss, from a world I'll never get to see or be a part of. Almost all fishing shows and videos now a days seem to incorporate some kind of underwater footage which I think is awesome. I don't think I actually buy one of those fancy underwater cameras, since that might take away the challenge and surprise I'm afraid. Yet observing fish feed, move and live underwater is something I find interesting and I think my knowledge as a river fishermen has improved from it.

Whats funny is that when I was young, the women at my families 'fishing/camping trips' used to out fish the men and it we would rib each other for being out done. I've never had a shovenistic opinion of fishing, but some people who can't help themselves but announce something they haven't seen before. "Hey, wow! that guy is blind" when his 8 feet away, or "wow, you have big teeth" while being introduced to someone. Do'h. My friend Stu is like that, although his fault is from a 'harmless' lack of intellegence, but its amazing and soooo embarassing when your with him. lol

I think they even fish on that show, I dunno I've seen a few episodes and haven't noticed any 'fishing'. I'm surprised he hasn't been killed, kidnapping people in Mexico, arresting Crack-heads daily has to shorten your life expectancy. And after all that, His wife scares me more. She doesnt need the mace.

I've had a stand up freezer in the garage for over a decade and its fine. I recently put it near the car-door and its been kicking in less, and I turned it down to like 3. I didn't realize it could do damage or harm by cold surroundings so I'm going to pay extra attention to it. I did notice it was a little louder which explains colder oil. Yet the garage floor is slab heated so it doesnt get freezing, maybe 10c at worst, back when we had real winters.

I think it just the motions of the global economy being based in China soon. The US has lost its place at the top, and we will need to compare the loonie to the yuan to get a sense of Canadas economic stance. Mark Trumbull Rolf Englund Welcome to the Walmart world 8-)

Thanks again Harps.

Wow, great info guys. "Ask a pro" indeed. I almost didn't ask about the weirs, since I thought any weir of them would be impossible. BBB, since the fish on the lower Bow can get past the dam, that means all lower bow Bows are hatched and don't spawn? I'm sure its obvious, but I'm unclear on spawn-less trout, and all the hatchery details. I've mainly fished lakes for Pike and Walleye and they are quite predictable. Water temp & visibility, wind/current, bait-fish, and structure are all you really need to know to track them down. Now from my limited experience with trout, they seem to be more unpredictable and nomadic. I've 'expected' trout to be where I found them before recently, since the location is perfect, yet theres 'nobody home'. I would think 'perfect spots' are valuable real-estate and considering 2500 fish per KM, so I've read, I find it puzzling there vacant. Say I catch a Bow on the lower bow, give him a smooch, take his pic and let him go. Does that trout mainly spend his life occupying a certain stretch of river, aside from spawning. And since I'm also 'assuming' the lower Bows don't spawn does that make their lives unique in regards to territory? Or will they just swim where ever their bread crumb size noodle take them, and I'm giving them too much credit? Again, thanks for the info and resources, much appreciated.

I'm wondering if there are some 'Bow river biologists', or otherwise, that could explain what a typical day is like for a trout, throughout the seasons? In general terms, obviously, and I know there are plenty of books on trout, yet sometimes a few suggestions and explanations can make things easier to understand practically. In other words, I can read tons of books on trout, but still not completely understand where or how to catch them at the river. I'm still navigating through the numerous learning curves, and I've come to understand that Fly Fishing successfully on your own takes a good knowledge in a few different aspects. Entomology, Water (temp, depth, speed), Water (composition & food), and the fish behaviour. All 5 trout I've caught with my fly rod have taught me something specific, and I may not have caught any without suggestions, books, and advice. I've just recently had a few Entomology epiphanies, like midge/chironomids, mayflies, and caddis flies as staples in trout diet. Regarding what they actually look like, and realizing the times I've seen hatches in the past, aka "the weird moth-like bugs were nuts at the lake". Reading and understanding things in theory rarely instantly equate in to a complete ability to use it practically. You can understand 'Ohm's law' yet have no idea how to wire a fuse box, for example. I haven't been to the fish hatchery in a while and I'm not sure if the local trout spawn, or if the entire population is sustained. Do the trout in the Bow river migrate? Can trout make it though the weirs? Is a trouts life mainly spent in one general area, or is it a random, journey mostly spent traveling downstream? It wouldn't surprise me to learn that its still a mystery what a trout does entirely (time for the trout 'critter cam'), but their basic functions and life is something I'd like to understand better. Book suggestions on trout info relevent to western Canada would also be appreciated.

Ya, I've got an eye on a camera and I've seen the difference myself. Whats interesting to note that the price difference isn't near equal for all items, some products are worse then others. Most notably, Asian electronics. I'm sure most of the blame is on companies lack of understanding the details involved. The Apple software is the perfect example. Even Apple calculates Canadian bandwidth as twice the price. Now thats ignorant, but sadly not uncommon. I remember when Xbox live first came online, while registering for support and networking it asked you for your country. Now there were countries galore, about almost 100, yet no Canada. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who pointed it out, but if your a multi billion dollar business and you simply over-look Canada, which is just over a hundred miles from your headquarters, its proof of the lack of understanding. If the dollar stays above the green-back, then I'm sure we will see the changes come. Money talks.

Now I know what the term "Free Trade" means in definition, but its not a fair calculation to compare the US and Canada in terms of market. Supply and demand dictate prices manufactures determine for a specific area. I'm in no way justifying the price differences you've noticed, but just adding some balance to the issue. The US has 300 million people and manufacture the majority of the majority of all products. Canada is one tenth the market the US is, and it has higher taxes, shipping rates and wages. Essentially the camera argument is one to be given to China, since they are selling the cameras to the US market far cheaper then the Canadian. Compound that with our higher 'cost of business' and you should expect a difference. The new question is where does 'Ebay' and the internet fit in to our 'free market', since its obviously putting the pressure on retail. Again, I'm not arguing the variation is 'fair' at all, but I think the internet acts like a huge magnifying glass which is upsetting to the consumer. Since the dollar value rise, and the US's decline the old excuse of "well their dollars better then ours" lost all credibility regarding price differences. However, you must look at them both as fair markets and the costs involved. Cannon pays X amount to ship cameras to L.A and sells boat loads more then they do to Calgary. That has a significant impact on price, and retailers need for profit per item. Also, duty fee's are things to consider in price, even though their collection isn't a reliable factor. I do expect that to change, since Canadian retailers will eventually be unable to compete. Yet another factor, is that the dollar variance will take at least a year to really see the impact, and much longer to see the full effect.

Great answers guys, thanks.

Hi, I've used a two nymph and a nymph-streamer rig but never a hopper/dropper rig. I've read all about it, yet I'm wondering if there are some Bow river or local 'goto' rigs or flies? Also, I'm aware that how the 2/3 flies are rigged will drastically effect the presentation. I've mainly read that if one is using a standard hopper/dropper, that you want the dropper to be near the bottom. Normally I've read that when trying to get a fly to the bottom, one should double the depth of the water in the length of the leader/tippet. However I'm thinking that with a Hopper acting like a bobber, this calculation wouldn't be effective. Maybe tying the dropper at or near the actual depth is better? I'm sure a bead head nymph commonly used around here (PN, Hare's ear, ect) are effective droppers at a #14-#18 size, but I have no idea as to size and type of hopper fly. I'd also imagine that the Hopper should have lots of hackle, and a generous amount of floatant to work right. I've also read that the hopper should be larger then the dropper, so maybe a #6-#12? I have no dry flies at the moment and I'm planning on grabbing some and rigging up some various systems so there ready to use on the river. Hence the questions. Does anyone else do that? pre-rig 2-3 fly setups? If so, how do you store them. What are common leader lengths (before the flies)? Also, the setup where the Hopper is tied to the leader directly, what situations is that intended for? I can't help but think the knot would weaken the leader, and I've also forgotten what knot is recommended. Is there any real difference in presentation compared to just tying the dropper to the Hopper's hook? I've also read that you can tie the dropper through the eye of the Hopper, which I would assume effects the presentation and drag. I'm thinking since I have a few knot-less leaders that I'm going to use a loop-loop leader system for awhile. This way I can have a number of pre-rigged leaders that can be easily swapped, rather then tying knots midstream. Thanks for any help.

Heres some info from 'highdefforum' HDMI stands for "High Definition Multimedia Interface". It is the latest standard which integrates the same digital video bitstream as DVI-D (Single Link) with up to eight channels of high-res digital audio. What's more, it is a two-way communicating bus, allowing a source and display device to "talk" to each other. For example, a display device (eg Plasma screen) can tell your source devcie (eg DVD) what format it wants to run in, and the DVD can output the appropriate signal. This is of course reliant on the manufacturers making their firmware compatible with this capability. It's essentially the modern-day SCART cable, containing both picture and sound. The picture quality of DVI-D and HDMI will be identical, assuming the same standard of cable is being compared, as the video signal/bitstream is the same. HDMI differs in that it also contains audio, has communications ability, and takes up less real estate on a device's connections panel. A "Single Link" DVI connection contains three data channels for digitized RGB information (called "Transition Minimized Differential Signaling"), offering a bandwidth which can support up to 1920x1080 HD progressive resolution. "Dual Link" has a secondary parallel connection of the same digital RGB "T.M.D.S." data channels, increasing bandwidth to a supported resolution of 2048x1536 progressive. It's important to first note that "DVI" (Digital Video Interface) refers to the connector, or interface, only. It's application can vary. There are three main types of DVI; DVI-I, DVI-D and a third one which is rarely mentioned, DVI-A. This latter one is DVI "Analogue", which is quite obviously analogue only. This is essentially VGA (RGB-HV) in a different plug. DVI-D is at the other end of the scale, being pure Digital video only. DVI-I combines the two, containing both analogue and digital cores. DVI-I does NOT convert ananlogue to digital. Rather it just provides a convenient connection to offer analogue or digital in the one cable. DVI-I and DVI-D can be distinguished by the presence (DVI-I) or absence (DVI-D) of four extra pins - two above and two below the flat horizontal location pin. As for "Monster Cable" its a waste of money. Unless you have a very long distance to travel or watch TV with a microscope, any decent cable will do. If you run optical audio to a receiver, then you can use a DVI-D cable to the TV for Video only. If your PVR system is HD, then you need HDMI or DVI-D, or you may as well get a SD TV since you wont be veiwing HD. As stated, Composite (RGB RCA connectors) is Analogue and although it will look better then S-video its not HD.

Nice Library? How many can you take at a time? Since I have some time to catch up on my reading, P.S - don't beleive the Zoot suit stories.

Thanks guys. In the pic where I say thats where I caught a riser, its crazy at dusk. I had to just watch last night, but thats part of the experience as well. The tree you see sticking out of the water is a magnet for fish. I was going to shoot a video cause the guy I caught was just sitting right at the end of the 'sweeper' and making a splash every other second. I finally broke down since I gave up on that point, mainly by breaking off a large fallen tree that was right in the wrong place. Almost as bad as the net-like branch above the spot is, I hit it a few times but was lucky to get the fly to fall off. Which I was hoping for a bite for sure after the natural plop, yet he seemed to have enough to eat where he was. I've only caught RB's by drifting nymphs and streamers so far, and the fish set the hook themselves. Well I totally had to set the hook on this guy, it was a new experience and a ton of fun. He got loose on a root but I was surprised to see him or one the same size in the same spot start feeding right away. I figured he would either be gone, or take forever to start feeding again. I just kept casting a prince nymph right in front of him and let it drift long enough to him to see in the film. Took a nice cast to get it there with a sweet plop. The guys I seen drift by were using dries, but it seemed like the one I caught was feeding only 'near' the surface, since you'd only get to see a fin or tail. Not a sipping or definite surface gobble. Anyways I can now buy some more dries in a bit of confidence they'll get to see fish. Although I wonder if a dry would have caught him? I do know that spot is perfect for dries, and I cant wait to get some. The guy I seen using dries had like a 12' leader at least. I had to admire his casting as well. Perfect. Looked like a carpet slowly unrolling, and the perfect landing. I also seen some '*hit-hawks' catch a fish. Amazingly their catch got away and was jumping and fighting yards away from the squawking herd, then swam right back to the birds and got gobbled up. After seeing those pictures of fish injuries I now understand the hazard birds are to trout or river fish.

Very nice pics. The water seems even more clear then where I was at. That first one is amazing, you have a polorized lens? 8-)

I took some pics yesterday, some of them are pretty. This is the top of the river valley on the way in looking east. This is the view from where we camp. This is where the risers are, one of which I caught the same day. Here is the spot from the island across the river. My little friend This is another spot. Theres a deep seam near the bank on the right. Its about 30' till the end of the riffle. Theres another tree fallen in the river thanks to my busy buddies. Aside from my rod tip snapping in half, and only one fish it was nice. The boaters were around, really only one pair of guys who gave me space and I went on the shore a couple times to let them drift by.

Found this a moment ago, seems like it has everything anyone would ever want to know about Bow river water and waste water details. http://www.fp.ucalgary.ca/ENSC/Wastewater/...%20Effluent.pdf I learned all I need to know from the pic with the sewage discharge. MMM....Effluent

I wrote down some advice for books on "the new fly fisherman" (http://www.thenewflyfisherman.com) TV show. -PROSPECTING FOR TROUT (An Orvis Guide): By: Tom Rosenbauer Hatches II: A Complete Guide to the Hatches of North American Trout Streams (Hatches II): By: Al Caucci,Bob Nastasi Streamside Guide: By: Art Flick

Poaching as in spotlighting with dead-lines? sounds like a lot of work for a fish you can't eat. Can't say I know anything about spotlighting but a red light sounds like it would work better then a white light. Yet again, lights, bait, sneaking around seems like some very serious poachers. More likely it was crackheads cooking up some Meth hiding out since they escaped from prison, smashing open a parking meter. lol. Should have called the cops, but you'd have likely gotten the same result.