Mykiss

Don't post on here anymore but can't resist this comment. You think your entitled to better treatment cause your a yahoo who sunk a 6-12K driftboat? See CFD conduct a swift water rescue with the Tomkat a few months ago? They gave a rats ass to the $5 dingy but rescued the damsel in distress. Same would have been done with you guys.

I like to use a 6/7 and or 7/8 that will toss big nasties...My 6/7 throws a 22.5' 525 grain with medium MOW tips and covers most of my big bugs... However when I'm into tossing dead chickens I'll use the 7/8 with a 25.5' 575 grain with heavy MOW's

Agreed....

Isn't a dead drift under a bobber in reality bait fishing anyhoo?

The picture of the sweep with the load on the rod is pretty neato....

Correct!!

I think we should all just cut the hooks off and count the number of pulls you get.....

The Beulah Platinum 13'2 7wt is a very nice stick... Had a chance to cast a buddies with a 525 Tonic... I was very impressed.. However I'm a huge fan of any stick Meiz builds..you can't go wrong with any of his series..

since this looks like its turning into another rickr circle jerk session...thought I'd throw a shout out to shc and say I agree.. respect is gone on the bow and its full contact out there. there is no reason to drift through H2O that a person is working..no reason at all on a river that large... use you oars for what they where designed for and row your fat ass out of the way. Plain and simple.

1. Can you explain how and why you assume a jet puts rising fish down after you only drift by ONCE at current speed and continue to move downriver past the feeding fish/or pod of fish?? 2. Lets not regulate jet boats lets have a rod day system for the guides. They are the ones that need regulation not jets.

Good so you should'nt mind a jet blasting by, after you use your legs and lungs to boot pack in to some remote place.

Ummmmm no for various reasons. 1. It would be non-stop starting and stopping. Hard on drive trains, pumps and minds. 2. A boat on plane equals less boat in river, which than has less wake. Don't hate the jets cause you don't have one people.

Go fish or smoke a J-bird...whichever removes that stick from your ass. Pump the brakes dude..Your pics are not that good that you will need a Lawyer.

Spool up the speydicator and your good to go plunk fish all day long......... Look on the airflo website at who designed it.... They don't even want to be named...I would'nt want to either!!!!

Gordon, Agreed that this site has been quite as of late... Think most people are out plunking fish rather than fishing for them...Anyhoo... The others that I also visit seem to be business as usual. Not stirring the pot just giving a potential reason why big Speycasting Uk and euroland companies may not commit to the North American Market. And lets face it you can only beat Skagit vs Scando vs Long belly threads for so long till it get's damn right boring and people need to fish!!

I'm sure you know better than say it is quite on the spey front in North America Gordon........ Go check out any steelhead river in the spring and fall...I'm planning on adding another Meiz to my stable so I can say it's not quite on my front...Any maybe that is why Euroland companies avoid North America... Where before Euroland had the market... Not so much today...Just my thoughts.

So you think that sport angling pressure has lead us to the dismal returns on the T......???? Not the dewatering of rearing grounds...poor ocean survival...due to piss poor decisions of openings to commercial fishing (DFO/MOE need to grow a set and get on the same program).....and finally running the gauntlet of fish farms??

...... And yet you continue to post .... But yet again you post

And once a year you hear a story of someone punching him out and/or skipping him across the Bulkley.

Your right Brian you don't get it.... A fish is "not" a fish.... To compare a stocked pellete fed rainbow to a wild anadromous steelhead is ridiculous. People don't turn into assholes they get the passion. They get a sense of stewardship for these fish. God be with the guy who decides he wants to beach a wild steelhead on the rocks and than watch it flop around while he searches for his camera with an "***hole" around. He will be lucky to walk away with a verbal lashing. They also get a sense of respect for the fish.... and the numbers that they catch. There are days/years such as last year where it was like "trout" fishing for steelhead. If you wanted to run crazy ridiculous numbers of fish on certain drainages you could. You think most "assholes" rung up 10-15-20 fish days??? I doubt it... Like I said waaaaaay back near the begining of this topic some people get it and some people don't... Hopefully if you guys ever fish for them and get the "bug"... You turn into the "Edit , ".

I don't think its a generation thing...Unless being in your 30's is the cut off.... I think you may have hit on something with the transition from nymphing for trout to steelhead. Unfortunatley some of the greedy trout attitude has also made the transition over.

Agreed I was harsh with calling the rig up a joke... If 420 or anyone wants to throw split-shot, bobbers, spinners...Knock yourself out... I'm pointing out that if you choose to fish that way...Save your arm and rotator cuff the agony and get a drift-rod and center pin. But figure that out for yourself. Also adding that in my 15 years of fishing for steel from the lower mainland up to the Skeena.... I can count on 1 hand how many people I have seen nymphing for steelhead....Hence why I made the reference to feeling out of place with a bobber on a steelhead river....But again #$%^ it I have another hand with 5 open digits.... keep the dream alive!!! It's post's like this that absolutely gets my blood boiling.... People who fish count to determine if the trip was a success or not. People who feel like they have to get there money's worth for CW's, steelhead stamp and out of province license by fish numbers. Thats not at all what the experiance is about.... If your concerned about the cost go south of the border and pound hatchey runs... BC and most everyone else in it won't miss you... On a side note....That fish is seriously disgusting

Glad to see Dutchie understands and gets it.. maybe others will going forward...and I NEVER EVER...... EVER said I think bait is alright to fish for wild steel.... Don't twist my words.....Gear and bait are way differnent.

The point I am trying to make...which again I will reiterate is steelheading is "NOT" a "NUMBERS" game... Brian you are spewing crap again on subjects you should avoid like the plague. You have gone steelheading a grand total of 3? times which hardly makes you an expert..... Provided you are fishing a summer run river with a decent run of steel...know how to read water.. and can cast 60 ft of line you will catch steel on the swing.... it takes time to read the water and figure were they hold.. each time you catch a fish you'll learn were you caught it...at which point of the swing it hit and the speed of the swing. Nymphing will not be the magical answer and instantly attract fish... if you have not touched steel for a week swinging to them its probley cause your in the wrong water.. and adding a stonefly or egg pattern will be a waste of time.

And again he breaks through with an earth shattering post.. I wouldn't think so low of you 420flyfishin if you actually posted something half intelligent and added to this discussion...However with posts such as the above and plenty of others it appears you have absolutely zero experiance with steelhead and zero to add to this discussion.... Surprise me.