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6 inch leader? really?
Yeah, short high break strength leaders. I go 2 feet, but I'm sure shorter works just as well. Usually the sink tip part of the line is black, gray, or clear so it isn't as much of an issue as a bright green floating line. I've found most of my takes fishing this way are pretty violent as well, so the high test is important. 99% of the hits have been on the dangle or during the first strip in my experience.
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What the heck was a bus doing out here anyway??
I think it's obvious he was taking people out to fish your water. The driver was watching you fight that big boy instead of the road, thus sliding off it. Fortunately at the same time everyone's rods broke from the impact, leaving them all to think it a bad omen so they packed it in never to return.
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I fish an 8 wt rod with a sink tip line and use it on the Bow for streamers. It's definitely easier to cast than a floating line with split shot attached to the leader since you don't get the twisting effect. I can also get pretty decent distance on my casts because of the extra weight in the line tip. Instead of a tapered leader, I just use about 2 feet of level 10lb Maxima. If you fish it with a weighted streamer it will get your fly down deep fast.
I really only use the rod for streamers, so I haven't had to bother getting a separate spool for floating lines.
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ya it aint cheap. The todd sharf stuff (upstream angling) is the best
Ah, I think I was looking at that today. Around the bottom of the back wall?
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Let the planning begin!! let me know what you need.
Colin
I guess the first question would be where exactly? Hull's Wood? Elsewhere?
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Hey Colin,
Putting on the Snowbee XS WF7 Ultra Fast Sink and the Snowbee XS WF7 Floating. They're both 90ft long.
Like Colin said 55 yards should be plenty, but if you wanted more backing you could always chop a bit of the running line. You can shoot backing just as well as line as long as your knot is streamlined with a bit of UV knot sense or something. My concern would be if you have that much line out consistently is the diameter (arbor) of your reel large enough to wind it back in effectively?
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Thanks for opening this dialogue... in my description of "Speed" I am referring to a casting style either Scandi., Skagit,and even underhand.These styles of casting encorporate shorter ,heavier or a more compact weight distribution,of lines....lock and load! A good example of this is the" 1/2 out" rule when fishing or casting with heavy tips,especially when useing these shorter compact line systems. At the "White Mouse" speed in forming your D or preferrably V loop , once your sink tip is approx. 1/2 out of the water you engage your forward stroke. There is so much momentum because of compact weight and short fast stroke that we are able to lift the remaining sinking line out of the water with the fly attached,almost like dragging the anchor to manipulate your loop forward and ironically be able to slightly adjust your desired direction. Longer bellied lines and even softer rods do not provide us with the versatility to enact this movement as efficiently.
Interestingly enough,Al has mentioned trying to use the full sinking lines (short head spey 44' "),rather than try to quickly pull that line from the waters depths it is fairly easy to slowly drag the line to the surface against the current or waters resistance ,they quickly performing your desired cast. The Same applies to all submerged lines.
C
Could you use a switch or roll cast to bring a sinking line to the surface then start your single/double spey or whatever? I have a sink tip (I realize a sink tip is different than a full sink) line for one of my single handed rods. If I have enough line out that lifting it straight out on the back cast would cause the fly to "pop" or suck all the line speed then I roll cast it to bring it up. As soon as the roll reaches my fly I begin my back cast. Could you do something similar to this with a Spey cast?
I'm also glad to see a couple other people cast weak hand up. Was getting worried that I was the only freak of nature. I think I will try to work on my cackhanded casting though. Can't hurt to have that extra option if the situation calls for it.
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missed last year but might go this year. Was supposed to set up a mini golf casting course in the trees last year. Fun event, super nice people
Would that be something like having some hoops around here and there that you have to cast into from a certain spot?
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I was wondering something similar today (re: how much backing). I tend to load up my reels with a ridiculous amount of backing without putting much or any thought into it. If you break it down though, 150 yards or ever 200 yards is likely, waaaaaay too much. If you think about it, 200 yards is 600 feet, if you add a typical line length in there your at 700 feet. I am admittedly not as experienced as allot of people here and I have not steelheaded (much to my regret) but I have fished the salt and I have never had anything run me out 700 feet. Or anything close to it. In fact, I have never had much luck landing fish who ran out past 100-120 feet unless I was able to get moving (like in a boat) to maintain really good tension. With that in mind I may strip down my reels so I can maybe fit some spey lines on my larger single handed reels.
-al
So I pulled out my Orvis Madison reel that I bought way back in 1991 at Country Pleasures. Funniest thing I never realized about it until today is that there isn't even a foot of backing on it. Just the fly line. I think you may be onto something with the whole excessive backing thing...
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Isn't that the same weekend as Gordon's Spey casting clinic?
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I think a great advantage of the casting pools for practicing is that you're only thinking of your cast and not about catching fish. How many people actually go down to the river to practice casting without a single thought of catching fish? Even if you tell yourself you're only there to practice/improve your cast you'll usually have a fly tied on and there'll be that little something in the back of your head thinking about fish. Next time I head down that way I'll have to make sure to bring a rod and reel along.
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Was just curious how many people cast cackhanded vs with their weak (non-dominant) hand on top. I've tried both and it feels more comfortable to me to have my weak hand up.
My right bank, left hand up casts seem smoother (though a little more awkward) than my left bank, right hand up casts as well. Maybe since my left arm doesn't have the muscle memory from single-handed casting? Anyone else experience this?
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I live in the far NW (Citadel) so I usually fish this stretch if I only have two or three hours in the evening after work. There are some decent spots and good sized trout. I have yet to hook into a white up there but maybe I just haven't tried hard enough. I don't think the dry fly fishing is quite as good as the lower portions. Haven't seen any caddis hatches that were dense like the ones down south. Nymph and streamer action has been good for me up there. Since I usually go in the evenings the rafters aren't as bad as during the day. I have had more people throw their dog a stick or ball into the water I'm fishing than I have at Southland or Fish Creek, though.
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At the show Francois from the Whistler Fly Shop helped me correct a Spey casting fault but only had a single hander rigged. Granted it had a fighting butt that we used as a lower grip, but it would still be easy to do without. The biggest difference I found was the timing since the rod isn't as long and I didn't have as much line out. But if you go by feel of the line loading the rod and watching your anchor then you're fine.
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Hey Courtney,
Great to finally meet you and Val. Glad to hear you guys made it home without incident.
Marc
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I'd be up for it provided work doesn't interrupt - I have a big project deadline on April 8th. Otherwise I'd be happy to help out where I can.
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thanks guys,
the classes will be full 8 hour days and be limited to a max of 8 as mentioned with both Frank and myself instucting. If there is sufficient interest we would be happy to do 2 days. We will bring a bunch of demo rods and lines for everyone to try as well.
I am just putting my calendar together for May but how about the 17th and 18th? I am pretty open at this moment so if earlier or later is better we can make it work.
looking forward to getting back out there,
Brian
I have a friend who isn't on this board but is interested in the clinic as well.
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Hmmmm....I fished my DeerCreek 6126 with #20 flies, on the Crownest back in October and found it too be the right tool for the job.
Did pretty good that day with Hawgstoppah if I recall and I think there may have been a post about it a while back...
Thing is, I have been out with my two handed rods about 250 times in the last 15 months and have fished them in every situation on big water and small. There were many challenges that I normally would have considered using a single hander, as I thought it would be easier and it would have been, had I brought one, but....I learned how to fish my two handers in situations that are thought of to be the domain of single handed rods and to my delight, I found that long rods rule....anytime, anyplace...you just need to learn HOW to use these tools to their full potential.
Then you will be amazed at the possibilities....Just my .02 cents on the matter.
ps. Do you know how many times I was told "two handers are no good for the Bow or trout fishing, that's for Steelhead and Salmon".....Good thing I did'nt listen eh....
Yeah, you can use a DH rod for small rivers and such - I had forgotten about the dapping techniques Speyghillie talked about. I myself bought a switch rod for high sticking and Spey casting streamers into deeper pools on the Highwood and other smaller rivers.
The Bow is definitely large enough to use a DH rod. I was watching a few Spey videos and a lot of the rivers they're on don't look any wider, deeper, or faster than the Bow.
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thanks guys,
the classes will be full 8 hour days and be limited to a max of 8 as mentioned with both Frank and myself instucting. If there is sufficient interest we would be happy to do 2 days. We will bring a bunch of demo rods and lines for everyone to try as well.
I am just putting my calendar together for May but how about the 17th and 18th? I am pretty open at this moment so if earlier or later is better we can make it work.
looking forward to getting back out there,
Brian
Isn't that May long weekend? Hopefully it doesn't snow
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I have a 12' Snowbee Torridge 6/7/8 for us to play around with at the next spey beach gathering as well as a couple matching Scandinavian lines to go with it.
Colin
Very nice. Courtney had a lot of good things to say about the Tamar and Torridge.
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I hope to have enough on hand here so that doesn't need to be the case, as well we hope to have a shop or two on board with Snowbee products this year.
Colin
That's great news. Always good to have a local pusher. I mean dealer. Uh, let's go with salesman
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Nice vid. Great soundtrack too. Now I want to get out of here and do some fishing. Too bad it's minus stupid degrees...
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That's great guys and now there are only a few spots left if anyone is interested.
Ok, you've convinced me. I'm in.
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sweet sticks....i spent a pretty penny..picked up a goran anderson 6120 with a evotec too match..a snowbee single handed line frmo courtney adn some poly leaders...could have spent 1000s
Was that the line you and Colin were talking about in the Sharkskin thread? Snowbee seems to have a pretty wide variety of lines available. I think I counted about a dozen single hand lines on their site...
Regular Line Vs Multi-tips
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For those of you who have cast both a Windcutter or Delta regular version and the multi/versi tip versions are there any major differences in the way they behave? I realize that if you're casting one of the sinking tips it'll be different than casting the regular floating version of the line, but is there much difference between for example the regular Windcutter and the Versitip with the floating tip?