BurningChrome
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That is exactly why I got one of these:
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5042-431/Bear-Spray-Safety-Travel-Container
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I can't help thinking that statements like this can be harmful. It implies that the disease will stop with a knee-jerk banning of felt. All equipment should be cleaned and dried. Fisherman aren't the only way it spreads. There is no talk of atvs, rafters and other users.
Yes, there are other ways for invasives to spread but the science has shown that felts are one of the most effective mechanisms. Then on top of that fly fishermen are probably much more likely to visit multiple water bodies within a short period of time. If you have felts and only use them on one river then there probably isn't much harm in that. Honestly though, there's really no need for felts any more. The first Vibrams I wore were kind of crappy and slippery, but I haven't taken any unplanned swims in the newer ones. Can't say the same for when I wore felts.
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- Restricting the spread of WD can be as simple as limiting the use of felt-soled waders and boots by anglers. Spores can remain in damp felt for an extended period of time and could pose a risk for introduction into other systems.
What are they waiting for then? Ban it. They've had months to do it. I know that Country Pleasures has decided to stop selling felts, hopefully other shops will step up and follow suit.
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I think Bron has a point - knowing how long the parasite has been in a system could be beneficial in that old information could be reviewed to try and determine what impact it may have had in the past, how quickly it is spreading and how the impact changes over time. Using that kind of information we could better predict what impact there would be in the future and how to best manage the fishery going forward.
Agreed, but I think you have to triage the situation and first figure out where it currently is then stop any further spread before you worry about tracing it back and all that.
That said, Pinkster has a point as well - consider Yellowstone. Whirling disease was first detected in that part of the world in 1998 and this summer there was a new outbreak that resulted in a fish kill and closed the river to all water sports.
Just to clarify, the outbreak on the Yellowstone this year was not whirling disease; it was a parasite that led to proliferative kidney disease (PKD).
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Of course it's important to know when it got here. If they just found wd on the Madison yesterday, they'd be assuming populations are in trouble; whereas the opposite is true.
Also important to know how it got here; although difficult (if not impossible?) to determine. If it were anglers, it may indicate more education or barriers are needed. If it was a bird (despite the number of anglers over a period of decades) perhaps there was enough education, or anglers don't pose a significant threat of transport (theoretically, for argument).
All we can do is make sure that we're not transporting anything to streams that are clean or haven't been tested yet. Way too early to begin mourning.
I think the best course of action right now is to assume that it's new until proven otherwise. Take all the necessary precautions so as not to spread it further. Let the biologists figure out when and how it got here in the meantime since nobody on a fly fishing forum is likely to solve that.
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I wonder if they will do the the Oldman/Liv and then the Castle .
I'd have to guess they already have and are maybe waiting for test results.
Fernie guys will be excited if they look in the Elk I imagine
If it's in the Oldman drainage it has to be in the Elk and tribs. Way too many people from both sides of the divide jump back and forth.
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Have you tried posting on http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum/ ?
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Here we go again. Anglers and drift boat users concerned with invasive species, but little interest from recreational floaters, kayak and canoe users.
So then we as fly fishers with an interest in the resource need to take a leadership role and help to inform other river users. Sure the kids in the cheap inflatables from Walmart don't care but they aren't exactly taking those disposable rafts to different water bodies. Know anyone with a kayak, canoe, etc. though? Let them know why it's important to clean all their gear and how. I'll bet someone like Uberfly has friends who kayak or canoe and he's also the type who'll tell them about these things. Maybe while you're lobbying for increased river access (which also benefits the recreational folks you're complaining about by the way) you could also ask about things like adding signage and cleaning stations. Otherwise you'll have lots of access points to a fishery possibly compromised by all sorts of invasives.
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Happy holidays.
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I'm sure someone will come along any minute saying the mussels are probably already here so there's no point.
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Uber's name is all screwed up HAHAHA
ÃœberFlyI'll need to do some digging on how to fix it. (Or maybe let him loose his mind for a bit longer)
Heh, he might not be able to even log in. Probably just a missing character set on the new server.
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I love Frog's Fanny and I was only able to get it at Westwind's (sorry I forget the new shop's name) and BPS. I might have bought the last bottle at "Westwind's" as they were not sure if they were going to buy more. I think I'll give this a try. If it's similar I'll be saving a ton of money as "Frog's Fanny" wasn't getting any cheaper.
I hope it works as well!!
https://loonoutdoors.com/product/loon-dust/
I used Frog's Fanny before and Loon Dust is pretty much identical.
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With rolltops you have to make sure it's wrapped tight or it can unravel a bit and let water in. Sounds quite obvious but if you were to open it, remove an item, you then need to roll it a bit tighter than before.
And as has been mentionned, you have to be careful with the T-zips too, the last centimeter or so is harder to close so you have to pay attention. And yes using the provided lube on these zippers helps a lot.
The Fishponds are nice too, the fabric is not as thick on them as on the Patagonia and Simms bags, but they are less money too.
I've got a Patagonia roll top and the sling with the zipper. With both after I close them I give the bag a squeeze to make sure no air escapes and they have an airtight seal.
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Not sure about the patience part, but if you drive a 4x4 a few guys I know get their trees out in Waiparous.
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There are more water bodies in Alberta than the Bow. How well do you think the cutthroat and bulls up in the mountains will fare if anglers bring it up there? Right now they might have a bit of protection from dams, hanging culverts, and waterfalls. Cleaning your gear isn't that difficult and like I said before protects against transferring other invasive species.
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Will the Bow River survive Whirling Disease? Experience in Montana would suggest YES!
http://fwp.mt.gov/mtoutdoors/HTML/articles/2007/whirlingdisease.htm
Survive, yes. But it took what, about a decade for Montana rivers to recover? Our already at risk bulls and cutties are a major concern though. How will their already low numbers fare if they're exposed? Posts like this have a danger of lulling people into a false sense of security when we should be encouraging them to clean their gear between water bodies, especially when you look at quagga mussels being on our doorstep as well.
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More or less the same thing. Some of them like Loon Top Ride also have a powder floatant mixed in. I gave up on the shake stuff last summer and bought an amadou patch instead. Works way better and doesn't risk damaging your tippet like the shake containers.
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I suspect the main issue is that they're only reporting the 'finds', and not the negatives. May well have tested Minnewanka and just havent published it yet?
Thought I read somewhere that they did test it but didn't find anything and will continue to test. It's much more difficult to prove a negative than a positive...
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so is that saying for an 8 weight, the type 6 and type 3 15 foot tips are both 85 gr?
Yup. If you go to the Rio website and choose a tip it'll tell you the grain weight. They used to have it all in a table but for whatever reason they changed up the site.
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So maybe draining it will "put a break" in the lifecycle, but from what I've read the spores can survive 30 years in dry dirt. Wouldn't it start up again after they put more fish in? It might not start right away, but maybe in a year, 2 years, 10 years... Seems not fully baked to me.
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Just stop using the follow and like button.
See what I did there?
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Get yer fix and plan to come to the conclave in Lethbridge. Small but mighty. The last couple of years I've only been able to make it to the Friday night film event, but have heard great things about the Saturday. I assume the group down here is planning it again for early March'ish.
Went last year for the first time and I'll be back this year. Great format and lots of fun.
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What lines are you guys attaching these tips to? Everything I've paired mine to are a pita to cast on my sh. I get maybe 50 feet from the boat with a weighted fly or two , but working my ass off.
Anyone know if the versitip tips have different amount of mass going though the line weights? Or are they consistent number of grains per foot? For example, would a type 6 tip from a #5 versitip system be heavier than a type 6 from a 8 versitip kit?
Seems like a dumb question, I just assumed they would all be the same grains/foot.
The Versitips should be different grain weights depending on line size.
5wt - 55gr
6wt - 65gr
7wt - 75gr
8wt - 85gr
9wt - 95gr
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Sometimes posting this type of information while very educational tends to put more less caring anglers on sections of water like the Mallard point channel at the most critical time ie fall spawning. The same problem has been going on for years at the Highwood confluence in the spring as the Rainbows stack up waiting for increased flows to begin their journeys up the Highwood and the #s of caring fisherman fishing this area just seems to increase. Sorry for the Rant...... hope I haven't offended any groups or individuals
I think that guys who actively seek to pull fish off redds are going to find them either way. You just need to know what kind of conditions they need and the redds are pretty easy to find. Before we did the count last year I think a few of us already knew where to look and where we'd find the highest concentrations just with that knowledge. Hopefully if anything responsible anglers can use the information to avoid certain areas during spawning times.
Not to derail this, but How is that any less ethical than steelhead fishing? Bull trout in July?
I get the active spawning time closure, as it's kinda shady to target fish actively sitting on a redd. But fish on a migration run?
Man, that's a major philosophical debate. I think one of the things about it that gets people worked up is years where there Highwood is frozen at the confluence. Those years the fish don't simply pass through, they stack up waiting for the ice to drop out so they can migrate. It creates a bit of a "fish in a barrel" situation where you can pretty much just chuck a triple worm rig and catch lots over and over and add to that the number of people lining the banks on both sides. That's what probably raises peoples' hackles the most.
No Calgary Flyfishing Show In 2017
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You don't cancel something if it's projected to continue making good money
I think the show was stagnating and I'm pretty sure there were fewer exhibitor booths last year. I heard a number of people complain that they could never use the casting pond to try a rod because the same one or two guys were always up there all weekend. If you want to check out a good fly fishing event this spring head down to Lethbridge for the Chinook Waters conclave. I went for the first time last spring and had a great time.