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On 6/11/2019 at 9:33 AM, bcubed said:
Most of the barb wire is in place because they don't want their cattle to exit the land. I'll respectfully jump barb wire every day if it's in a road allowance, as that's owned by the Province.
Also, the rec access website is quite helpful to determine who to talk to, as mentioned above, it does make a difference if you just knock and say hello.
Just keep in mind not all road allowances are totally public in Alberta. Many are leased or subleased to landowners (undeveloped ones obviously) with the crown's right to end the lease at any time to develop a road. But I do know of several instances where a county or the crown has leased the road allowance to a landowner for grazing or otherwise, so just keep that in mind. Obviously in the case of bridges you're fine to go across, but for some instances at a 90 along a river or creek where the allowance intersects. If you're ever unsure a quick call to the county office can generally answer the question as long as you have your rough legal location,
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No permission needed as long as you stay below high water. You will encounter many landowners who will try and intimidate you, but as long as you stay below high water you are good. This can be difficult sometimes to navigate some of these fencing quagmires. I have had several landowners try and intimidate me and tell me I wasn't allowed to fish and was trespassing. Twice a quick call to fish and wildlife and have them come out if they're reasonably close, settled the matter. Once I had to wait for about an hour, would have been easier to go to a different access point, but it was the principle. Don't cut their fences and try to be courteous as possible, but don't let ranchers intimidate you from fishing. Sometimes it really is a grazing thing too, though.
That being said, especially in southern Alberta, sometimes a quick knock on the door and chat with a landowner can give you some unbelievably great access. I have had multiple landowners grant permission to not only cross their land, but allow me to drive in on their private trails and even been permitted to camp. Mutual respect thing right. Same with hunting access. They understand the guy who actually puts in the effort to ask permission, is respectful, and will be respectful, follows the rules - instead of just going where he pleases. Worst they can say is no, you won't be shot. If access is granted, follow up with a tim's card, a bottle, a christmas card, any gesture, and I guarantee you will have access for life.
Bottom line, don't let any of the fence-the-fishermen-out fences along bridges keep you out.
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15 -20 front and back. Scotty anchor locks. End.
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To echo what SD said; and here's how:
Honestly if you know a little about grayling habitat, ie any creek mouth or good looking place, they will be there. Did that drive a few years ago and anywhere we stopped for a whiz and a few casts we got into em.
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Thanks mdfcontracting, those will work at the fishin hole. Checked Cabela's canada with no luck but found them online from cabelas.com
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Wordens-Lures-LilCorky-Bodies/1166949.uts
6 bucks US doesn't sound too bad for 25 but I bet you'll pay 4x that in shipping and customs. Looks to be all tiny sizes though.
Also right off Yakima's site:
Thanks Lornce I never even thought to give BPS a look.
Current - The Canadian Tire here doesn't have them.
I miss Wholesale for this type of stuff nobody else had!
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As the title says; does anyone know where a person can find the worden's brand corkies for indicators? I refuse to use the peg style if fishing less than 12' with a bobber.
The fishin hole used to carry them in the bulk walleye tackle area for making bouncing rigs, but it appears now they no longer do either. Anyone?
Thankyou in advance!
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19 hours ago, trailhead said:
There is a large group of people that are purely catch and keep anglers who would rather have a bucket full of small perch than the pleasure of catching a trophy trout. I have run into them all over the province and most noticeably in Central Alberta, caught some very nice browns on Stauffer one day and when I ran into a group at the access point, they asked how I had done. When I replied about the fish I caught they asked where the fish were, I said I let them go. The response was "Yeah right, good one". Your not a successful angler unless you keep what you catch.
Or you post it on instagram....
16 hours ago, Smitty said:... Didnt like my reply. Deleted it.
I don't mean to come across as attacking you - this is a good debate.
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7 hours ago, Smitty said:
Ah! Now I see. Yes, 100%. I could closing a lake as a viable alternative, but that also punishes the anglers targeting trout.
And, the biggest downside to closing lakes is that makes alot of lakes right now eligible for closure. Can you imagine closing, what ten to 2 dozen lakes? I don't even know how many infestations there are, province wide.
Yeah, I totally agree; these guys already are doing something illegal, we're not going to prevent them from poaching.
Seems like the best course would be (1) close the lake (2) rehab the lake rotenone, turn off aerators (3) signage and educational campaign blitz (4) toughen the laws for the live transport of fish, dumping goldfish, koi, perch etc where-ever. Education is a big component here.
Too bad there aren't reverse aerators where they "suck" the oxygen out of the lakes...though I am sure PETA would have something to say about that..It would be no skin off my ass, or most other hardcore stillwater anglers I know, to not be able to fish a perch-infested lake for small unhealthy trout. None of us bother to fish them now anyways as it stands.
You are correct in that nothing has been done to deter the idiots, it is pretty miniscule in the regulations about transporting live fish, the people who did it know they were doing something illegal and obviously took steps to ensure they wouldn't be caught. Education is a big part - but the principle still stands that these ass hats shouldn't be rewarded for their efforts. I think the next logical step is to close the lake, so everyone knows it shouldn't be done. From there it would sure be nice if a rotenone application was pursued.
Then if only they could prioritize trophy trout lakes over put and takes. Stock less fish in most of the lakes and tighten up the regulations, better management, and all the extra fish can be dumped into the sacrificial put and take lakes for each area. Some very simple fixes from where we sit to create manitoba or bc-like fishing opportunities here and boost tourism, but I don't believe things will ever get to that point due to all the bureacratic BS. It's guys like Brian and Don that keep fighting and holding our management personnel accountable, that have gotten us where we are so far. We need more people to do the same. I have no problems putting my money where my mouth is, I feel bad spending so much in BC and SK and MB to fish each year, knowing I could spend that locally and help our economy...We got it bass ackwards in Alberta.
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7 hours ago, Smitty said:
That's one way to look at it.
Another way is to also say that not allowing retention of perch hasn't done anything to improve those trout lakes as well. Furthermore, I don't believe the zero retention was working as a deterrent. You're dialed into the bios and conversations Don, can you cite some evidence of any upside to that policy? It was, what, in place the past 5 - 7 - 10 years?
So if leaving the perch alone didn't help trout, and it's not preventing the bucket biologists from acting selfishly, maybe it is time to reverse the policy. Maybe they should allow unlimited retention and a must kill policy for perch. What could it hurt at this point?
If the lakes aren't going to be properly re-habbed with rotenone and/or the aerators shut down in the winter, I am the "might as well try this now" stage.
Clearly, you see it differently. Fair enough.We've been at the "might as well try this now" stage for quite some time in a few lakes here. I understand Don's frustration and agree with him wholeheartedly. Above and beyond rewarding these idiots, it leaves more places for them to get perch to transplant to more lakes. Enough is enough, might as well poison all the lakes. The sooner we can start rectifying this problem the sooner we can get our trout lakes back.
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21 hours ago, trailhead said:
I have done the nest destruction before when they were building in my backyard, easy enough to get up. This one is hanging out over the street and about 80 ft in the air. Will try some other tricks I have been told and will see what happens.
Ouch. That complicates things!
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14 hours ago, trailhead said:
Oh and the magpies are building a nest in the tree that hangs over the road in front of my neighbors house. Direct line of sound to our bedroom window. Guess I'm getting up early every morning this summer
If you enjoy quiet mornings, be proactive and destroy the nest in the dark before she lays eggs. Otherwise you will completely curse magpies for the rest of your life.
Seen a couple of ducks around here, some geese to the east. Can't help but think we'll get at least one more good blizzard yet...
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On 3/17/2019 at 3:06 PM, monger said:
Northfork....I am just talking about replacing felt. I got my replacement felt from Springbrook/TFO outfitters in Calgary. The tube of cement in the package (barge cement?) does not hold up as well as marine GOOP.
Remove all old felt from boot, roughed up sole a bit with a file. Cut out felt a bit bigger than required. Mark edges of boot on felt with a sharpie so you can place boot in exactly the right spot. Stuff the inside of boots with paper/newspaper. Cover soles and felt with a healthy layer of marine goop...check to see if you need to wait a short time before sticking things together. Once boots and new felts attached, I secure them by wrapping the felts to the boots with duct tape with as tight of wraps as you can. Be sure to get arch area very tight. Stuffing the boots with paper makes them stiffer for the tape wrapping process. I use lots of tape wraps so the boot looks like a mummy. Try to make sure you have tension on the felts from every angle. Then I leave them for 24hours
Thanks Monger!! Some very good information.
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18 hours ago, Bron said:
Chrome/gunmetal red or black rib with black or white bead is pretty much the only chironomid you *really* need #10-16 covers most scenarios.
Im sure mr Anderson will have something to say/about the bead. Ha
This enough said.
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10 hours ago, scel said:
Thanks for all the input everyone. I have a feeling that Simms Freestone boots are likely the a top contender.
Yup - in my experience best bang for your buck for sure, and if someone has a method to re-sole themselves then that's serious life out of a pair of boots. I can totally see a set of these lasting 4 or 5 soles or more if you look after them. I remember getting quotes to get some resoled and it was crazy. Really interested to see.
3 hours ago, adams said:I also loved the Chotas but can't find them anymore. Funny how when they finally produce a really good product they stop making them.
I have Simms freestones (vibram sole) and I"ve had the felt sole version in the past. I find the vibram a little thin and can feel some rocks at the end of the day compared to the felt. You will also need to spend another $62 or so to put star cleats on the vibram sole, otherwise I find the boots dangerously slippery on the stream bed. You also want to buy some extra star cleats because some will fall out and/or loosen during the season. The felt version is definitely more comfortable and ready to go, but the vibram is supposedly better for the environment.
Adams
I want to say I've seen them at the fishin hole too but don't quote me. I have yet to be convinced on switching to vibram with the cleats, I totally understand it's supposed to be better for the rivers but I can't see vibram and cleats being at best comparable to felt. I still use felt and go through a thorough "decontamination" when switching rivers.
And as for korkers, they're junk. I bought a pair of them a while back that had the interchangeable felt and vibram soles. Genius idea and easy to "re-sole" but the stitching and seams sure didn't hold up. Not comfortable at all either.
Glad to hear mostly good reviews on the G3s, I was a little worried they wouldn't be as good as the freestones.
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15 hours ago, monger said:
Simms Freestones have been good for me. On my 3rd set of felts. A bit of stitching is finally starting to get a bit worn. I think I will get another set of felts on them.
I use Marine GOOP for adhesive....works great.
Hey monger, you've used the marine goop to apply new soles? I am curious if you can spill some more detail on your process to add new felt soles. Do you order new soles from Simms? Thanks in advance.
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Chota's simply cannot be beat for the price - however finding them nowadays isn't easy. Unless you've owned a pair before of course you'll want to try them on first. I know the sportsmen's den in Red Deer did have them, not sure if they still do. I'm sure they can be found online.
I've ran Simms freestone the last couple three pairs and been pretty impressed. Normally I wear the sole off the boot before anything else. and after looking into it before replacing the sole would cost more than new boots. I picked up a pair of simms guide boots over the winter on clearance from the fishin hole, they seem pretty similar to the freestone just look a little better built.
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1 hour ago, Jayhad said:
It wouldn't be to difficult, the boat is small, much smaller than the 18' jon jet that a guide runs on the raven
You could totally do it and I hope you do. Many locals there think they own the rivers/creeks. I have heard about the big boat up the raven, he would get bottlenecked in a few spots eventually. Wish I had a jet lol.
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My god, I'd quit...
It's like football formations!
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On 2/28/2019 at 11:21 AM, Jayhad said:
SHACK NASTIES EH?
let's all talk about how mad you are going to be when I run my 185HP mini-jet boat up and down all the tributaries of the Red Deer this up coming season..... ALL OF THEM, hahahahaha
I would be a lot more impressed than mad. Please spend lots of time around Bergen upsetting locals!
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31 minutes ago, trailhead said:
Maybe they put the big tigers in there to eat some of the invasives in that lake.
Bingo, same with the browns and brookies. Rainbows get progressively more piscivorous as they grow of course. I love the 10 large tigers that were stocked. Must be a "brood stock" of sorts, of course they aren't used for reproductive matters as they're sterile, but must have been research fish, must be nice and ugly like the rainbows, all rubbed raw and torn up from concrete.
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I am having issues with this site too. Posts are glitchy, PMs I can't even get out, looks like a lot of people are double posting. Maybe a bug? I am no tech guru especially with websites.
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Produced water with injected chlorine. Picks up frac sand and chemicals, nitrogen, acid, heavy metals, you name it. Hopefully it's not too detrimental.
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Don,
I don't believe there was large browns in that stretch, but I can't help but wonder if there were some moving in trying to spawn in the affected area. Chlorine is pretty toxic to microbes and invertebrates.
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This was on the Nordegg river SW of Lodgepole and happened 10 days ago. 4000 m3 of chlorine, definitely nuked the Nordegg and Braz tailwater.
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Camp set up at Maycroft?
in General Chat - Not Fishing Related (NFR)
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Logging laydown yard?