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  1. Thanks some good thoughts here...

    The multi-tiered approach was used in the planning and creation of Kananaskis country. I was at university at the time and many of the environment and geog. profs were involved in the planning and often discussed it in their classes. The west country is big and has space for everyone. There are areas that could even be used for the of roaders. But it all comes down to a gov't willing to plan it and to enforce it.

     

    Bingo.

     

    Another point I see here why people are "random camping", as someone else brought up, is the cost to stay in a campground. From $8 - $30 per night, you do get firewood but that's about it. In campgrounds without an attendant you don't get the extra security to leave your stuff there anyway.

  2. You can't go wrong with RIO Gold Freshwater lines either. This is the first year I have used them (Usually use SA Lines) and I am very impressed so far. The 6wtf I have is super High float, soft memory free, and shoots great. I can't say how well it holds up over multiple seasons, but I can tell you that after about 30+ trips it still looks like new and that says a lot since I am pretty rough on my lines. I have ripped branches off trees and bushes, broken 14lb mono off the end by pulling straight down the line on a nasty snag (the hardest I have ever had to pull to break off BTW when going for pike).

     

    I have used heavy weight and long leaders to sink most the of shooting head for full days on lakes and it still floats right to the tip as soon as you pull off the weight.

     

    Have used many types over close to 20 years and can honestly say this line performs as good, or better than most lines I have owned.

     

    Exactly the way I see it. Used to be an SA guy but after switching to Rio I'm never, ever going back. Gold is like the utility line. Selective trout lays down very nicely, mainly for dry fly fishing. Of course the nymphing and lake lines are heavier. Gold sits somewhere in the middle. It shoots great and like Kungfool said it floats nice and high and virtually 0 memory.

     

    Jim Vincent is pure genious.

  3. Chaisson ... consider this. When a fish is in his lie he is facing upstream, into the current. As a morsel of food floats by his position he moves out from his lie and takes the nymph and returns to his lie. If he is feeding heavily, he may not have a specific lie but just return to the stream bottom to wait for the next nymph to float by. His movement is generally very lazy as he moves to take the nymph. For the most part he doesn't lose stream position in the take. He may move laterally and to a different water column to take the nymph but most often he won't lose ground to the current. (This is just a general rule of thumb. I have seen fish watch the nymph float by then turn and take it on a downstream run.)

     

    Now consider your fishing technique. If as you say in your post (quoted above), you have your strike indicator drifting upstream of your flies, when a fish takes your nymph all he's going to do is create slack in your leader. Let's look at this in detail. Your flies are floating along in a dead drift and your indicator is floating along in a dead drift upstream of your flies. The fish sees your nymph and moves laterally to take it. Since your flies are already pretty well right on the bottom, as he takes your nymph the fish either just rests there or moves back to his lie. So now the fish has the fly in his mouth (for about 2 or 3 seconds) and your strike indicator still hasn't moved because all that has happened is that the fish has stopped the dead drift movement of the flies but the strike indicator is still upstream of the fish continuing its dead drift float. So as the strike indicator floats down with the current in a dead drift with the flies stopped in the fish's mouth, all that's occurring is that slack is being created in the leader between the indicator and flies. As he creates that slack you will see absolutely no indication on your indicator of the strike. I may not have explained this very well but is it very easy to simulate on the river.

     

    Consider also that there are a wide variety of current and turbulence variations between what you see your indicator doing and what the flies on bottom of the stream bed are doing. If, as you say, your indicator is upstream of your flies, it is conceivable that there is a considerable amount of slack in your leader between the flies and your strike indicator. In this case, when the fish takes your nymph, the flies stop their dead drift. As the indicator passes the fish's position the slack between your strike indicator and the flies starts being taken up. Eventually, all the slack will be taken up and the leader between your fly (in the fish's mouth) will become tight as the stike indicator floats far enough by the fish's position in the current doing its dead drift thing. When the indicator has floated far enough downstream of the fish, because the fish stopped the flies from drifting, the indicator will show the strike. The trouble with this entire scenario is that the fish isn't likely to hang on to your nymph for that long ... you missed the strike. Your indicator and flies will continue on their merry dead drift as though nothing had happened.

     

    In contrast to what you say you're doing, indicator upstream of the flies, next time out try reversing that technique. Always ensure the flies are upstream of the indicator. Still do your dead drift thing if you want to but do your best to keep the flies upstream of the indicator. As your weight fly (SJW) taps along the bottom, it will keep the leader between it and the indicator taught. When a fish takes one of your nymphs and essentially stops it from its dead drift, you will immediately see the strike on your indicator. This is the theory although the variety of currents and turbulences on the stream bottom don't always follow theory.

     

    You absolutely drilled it. So in simpler terms, shorter leader.

     

  4. Fellas,

     

    we really do not appreciate all of the work that Don in particular has done for Alberta's quality fisheries. He has been the driving force on Ironside and Fiesta. I've fished both a ton, and appreciate all the hard work that went into setting it up, and all the work they do to maintain it.

     

    Obviously due to the lack of funding there is not as much research and field work being done that would potentially lead to more wuality fisheries. In spite of this, you guys need to listen to Missinthebow as well. Way too many guys say they are on board with promoting and developing more quality fisheries and don't do their part. Coming on here and saying you'd be in for stuff like this just doesn't cut it. Email, call, or write a letter to your local SRD fisheries guys. Even knowing the right people can get you places. I had an inquiry for a particular issue on Prairie Creek and Don Andersen gave me his insight and also some people to contact regarding it. Just a few concerns from a few people has made the issue acknowledged though and I was told to rest assured that it will be looked into.

     

    I agree it is nice for us central alberta guys because we have 3 lakes that increase the chance at catching bigger fish. We need more of these, yes. Edmonton's got one, which is better than Calgary. I moved up here because of the proximity to better fisheries. I feel for the Calgary guys.

     

    Mr. Stelfox has suggested a potential water that could escalate shortly into something special. If you guys really want to get something going, look into getting answers for his questions and contribute as Don Andersen has in the development. Listen to the guys like Don who have done this before. You just have to keep riding the fisheries' guys asses until they put forth an interest in quality fishery development.

     

    Just pointing out what I'd do if I was in your guys' situation. I'll even email a couple people on your behalf and express my interest in some quality fishery development.

     

    On a side note where the hell is Kerbe's pond and what can a guy expect to catch? I've been hearing some good things.

  5. I'm just wondering if any of you have a system of relieving yourself out of your float tube instead of going into shore. I hate kicking to shore when the action is hot. Kick over, take off your flippers, take off your vest, undo your waders, pull them down, then repeat the process to get going again. Now I'm not saying I want to just whiz in a lake but do you guys have any tips? There has got to be a better system.

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