jksnijders
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Where I grew up (Priddis) I would snare and shoot them in the prime months for extra money while I was in school. I would estimate that I have snared, shot, skinned and stretched in the neibhorhood of 500 coyotes over 5 or 6 years back then so ya I have a good idea of what I am talking about.
Seems alot of posts can come across as spurious.. As for the fish, whatever. I've seen no shortage of pics that I call BS on, but to be bothered wasting time on it, no thanks. As for someone that caught a brown or rainbow of whatever size, without a pic, that is what it is. A story for everyone else but the guy who caught it. The ones I see are the ones I believe. As for the dog skins, I have a friend who's family have a commercial fur shack not far from here. Should see what he gets in a year himself.. Personally, I find your numbers tough to believe, but whatever. Maybe you did..? I know guys that spend alot of time in the winter shooting coyotes and would be lucky to get 50 if they really tried hard. These guys are farmers and ranchers for the most part, let alone when in school all day 5 days a week. 5 or 6 years, means you'd have a license for 2 of those.. Alot of hard walking (or horse) miles in the winter I suppose. Myself, it's not worth the gas, the shells or the time to hunt the damn things, let alone skin them. But I guess they'd have been worth more in the 50's...
And was wondering where you disappeared to Clive...
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Awesome.
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He was a couple of feet longer than my Meiser.
A provincial record I'd guess..
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That is awesome, what was the fight like?
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When I was younger I used to fish for them alot, hooked but never landed anything really big. Had one on once that was pulling a 12 foot aluminum boat. Upstream. Always wanted to fish for whites, haven't made it yet though.
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Post some of your video of big Tarpon in 2' of water. Can't get too much of watching videos like this!
I second that..
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Sturgeon can live alot longer than the dam has been around, so good chance there may be the odd one above it.
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The only way I'd fork over money to see Ann Coulter would be to see her step off the curb in front of a speeding Greyhound. Hard to believe that she got where she is by simply being loud mouthed and arrogant..
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Very nice.
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See, that's the problem these days. You guys have too many ways to access the outside world. In my day, all I had was an XJ phone.
Get your ass back to work!!
Hehe.. My dad had an XJ, those things were awesome..
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Field: I used to tell people the hours I worked, but I stopped because people don't believe it. I can come up with multiple instances of working over 48 hrs at a stretch, and one over 60. After these I would crawl in the sleeper and my crew would sometimes drive me home or to a hotel, and often just drive me to the next location where they would wake me up and do it all over again. I never made anywhere near 220K per year, but I did make good money. If you figured it out per hour, it sucked though. Usually 2 weeks on, 1 week off, which really equated to 16 on, 5 off. I don't begrudge anyone the amount of money they made in the field. I had a university degree, but there were guys without who made more than me. I couldn't have cared less. To quote an old song, we worked hard for the money. However, for many of us that were married, it did not take long before we had to choose between the money and our marriages. My wife got tired of raising our kids by herself.
After doing all three different jobs, I can easily state that to me the field person is not overpaid. The amount he or she gives up in their personal life, from my experience, demands the higher compensation. If the pay was not higher, it would be impossible to fill many of those jobs. And also remember that even though many of them only have HS education, many of those HS guys will be the smartest people you'll ever meet.
I've never been a teacher. I've taught before, but to peers, not really to students. I have several friends who are. I think they are drastically underpaid. But the fact they are underpaid doesn't mean there is anything wrong with someone in a field job being well paid. The goal should be to raise the pay of the teacher, regardless of what someone in another occupation is making.
Well said.
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"I will say that if my post was the most assinine someone has read, I find it hard to believe that they have read all that many posts. "
"Asinine" may have been a bit harsh. And for that I apologize. A little. I've read a good number here, and yours just hit alot closer to home than alot of the child-like pissing contests I see here.. But as it is, as I am one of the aforementioned field hands that has been on call for waaay too many days straight, and a long day full of stupid calls got to me a bit.
" Typically, in most industries, the level of compensation is commesurate with formal training or education combined with experience. I don't find that to be true in O&G. "
You can learn a hell of alot more standing on a rig floor than from a textbook, in many respects. I've gone through many "training" courses that I gained very little from, mainly because what I was taught was, to say the least, very reliant on everything going in a "textbook" fashion. This is rarely the case when dealing with things in the field. Better learn to think on your feet is kinda what I'm getting at.
"To the gent that suggested the conditions are very rough and lonely in the field. I have no doubt they are. I'm not sure they are rougher than those that the men and women of the armed forces face that go out on ship for 4 months straight or to Kandahar for 6 months. A Warrant Officer in either place would make far less than half what a construction supervisor at an O&G site would make. You may not know many field folks that are making more than $220K but I do."
Maybe a bit off. I know alot of guys that make a decent dollar, but aside from consultants that stay very busy, or guys pushing really busy rigs, its not a huge percentage in or above the 220 k mark. As for the military, my hat is off to anyone in that line of work.
"To the folks that suggested that O&G field workers don't get 2 months off every summer. That is probably true, but a very large number of O&G personnel work 2 in 2 out. By my count that is 26 weeks a year they are off. And yes, they work damn hard and long when they are in."
2 in 2 out is, from the people I know that work that schedule, usually reserved for the oilsands or battery operating in remote locations.
"I was heartened with the response from the one person who is in the field but recognizes that costs are still way out of whack. Supply and demand works, but it can get out of balance, especially when you're dealing with a somewhat captive and non-competitive market."
I'm in the field as we "speak", so that makes 2. Costs are out of whack, but realize too that we are dealing with a finite resource. Why should there not be a somewhat trickle down effect. Everything costs more and more all the time. Try building iron when its flat out busy. Then eating the costs of said iron to keep your costs down when billed to oil companies, who never discount the price of what they sell to anybody... Competition for employees that are worth a damn goes up, along with what it costs to keep them when they can go elsewhere at the drop of a hat. At the end of the day, everyone wants the best equipment, with the most experienced personnel, for the cheapest cost. Pretty hard to balance that out I'd say. Look at what is happening now. Activity drops to a 10 year low, people get laid off, move on to other things, move home, etc, etc. Then, as though someone flicked on a lightswitch, everything goes from 0 to 120 km/h. Where are all the people? Why do we have to wait 3 weeks for a frac? Why all these problems? Gee, do the math on that one fellas.. Everyone screaming for iron when it's busy, but when it slows down nobody wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole. Wireline trucks, tubing units, frac spreads, drilling rigs, all cost an arm and a leg to build, yet make absolutely zero when they're sitting in the yard.
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Nice..
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A work related hazard I doubt most teachers have to worry about.. One guy was killed here, btw.
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BTW - you can focus on exec pay if you want, but the really outrageous costs in the oil patch are for folks in the field - many have no education beyond high school and get paid 3-4 times as much as a high school teacher with a Master's degree.
This is probably the single most asinine post I've ever read on this site. I don't know many field hands that get 2 months off in the summer, and get to shut the operation down when it's 40 below. (My bus didn't run in that weather when I was a kid..) Watch a service rig trip pipe in the middle of the Suffield block winter day then tell me the guys are overpaid. The days don't end at 4 pm, or whatever time a teacher wraps up the day. I've spent a month straight sitting in a camp, in the fine areas of High Level (which was 2 hours away) Conklin ( Lac La Biche- 3 hours.) Or Borealis. (From Ft. McMurray, a solid 3 hours.) among many others. Friends and family are a brief voice on the end of a cellphone in those places, if you can find service. I don't know alot of field hands that make high 6 figure salaries, perhaps you do. I put more km's on a vehicle in a month than most teachers or execs do in a year, almost all work related. And I am educated beyond high school, just so you know. But hey, I guess people like myself with a strong back and a weak mind have to find something to do with themselves...
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May have posted this before..
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Awesome..
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Thanks Drew for getting it back on track. Here is a nicely spotted rainbow from back home. Beautiful weather, lots of fish and me and my dad were the only ones on the lake. Steller day.
No pics of Big Ern?
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Sadly Ann Coulter is coming later this month too.
Ann Coulter is about as ignorant as they come.
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A few... I just happened to be there with a camera. First 2 were fooled by a certified Jedi Master..
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There is an interesting method to preparing these fish. A buddy nails the head to a board slices the skin around the "neck" area and then peels the whole thing back over the tail with pliers. They did taste very good.
Seen it done many times. Right in front of the old ferryman's house near Steveville the old cottonwoods were littered with big old ling skeletons. They're tough SOB's too, we caught one when I was a kid, tossed it in the truck, drove a solid 45 minutes home, planning to clean it (without the help of a tree, but a 2 x 4) and found the thing still very much alive. Tossed it in the pond in the backyard, and be damned if it didn't swim away....
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Thought it might be a Dutch fish... big mouth, prone to ambush attacks........
Hehe...
The snoekbaars ('eyes) are impressive too
Family friend sent me pics of several up around 20 lbs or larger.... Never got that lucky. Roebuck didn't pan out very well either.
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Ijmuiden is a nice place. Never got a chance to fish for pike much when I was there, but did get out on the Ijssel River for an afternoon near Kampen, guy I went with has sent me pics of the pike and walleye (snoekbaars) that they get, walleye considerably larger than the average we see. Lots of slow moving productive water and forage fish, no wonder they get so big. Definitely want to get back there with a flyrod..
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That pike was caught in Holland.
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and a bit of WGAF in mine
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Who Likes Beer?
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I'll be loading heavy for that float for sure.. As for Wildrose, burned through a Pig of Alberta Crude in fairly short order. Good stuff..