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  1. Thanks Headscan.

     

    I don't think tube vs shank makes or breaks the pattern, that tube looks slick.

     

    The recipe for an intruder in Dec Hogan's book is very different from the latest version from Ed Ward, so the fly is evolving over time.

     

    For sure, they looks like 2 completely different species now.

     

    i prefer seal fur for the bump and polaebear for te collar aswell

     

    Agreed on those points Max. If you get a chance, check out Todd Scharf and ask him to show you his polar bear dubbing loop. Now that really keeps the hackle from collapsing on his HAF.

  2. This is what I go on for Intruders. The pattern is listed in Dec Hogan's "A Passion for Steelhead", but I don't own a copy. If anyone does and can post the recipe, that would be cool.

     

    to be an intruder it has to have eyes.

    to be an intruder it has to have a trailing hook, preferably small in relation to the body size

    to be an intruder it has to have pheasant tail for the hackle

    to be an intruder it has to have grizzly hackle for side wings

    to be an intruder it has to have ostrich herl for a tail

     

    If it doesn't have these things it isn't an intruder. It may be a good fly. It may OUTFISH an intruder. But it isn't an intruder. It's a HAF (Huge Assed Fly). Intruders are HAFs but not all HAFs are intruders. You can tie a "rhea intruder" or an "Amhearst intruder", or a "bunny intruder", or whatever you want, but to be fair you should qualify it. Just like a "marabou clouser", "bead head prince nymph", etc.

     

    I just recently watched this youtube clip, which should make it clear, the reason that the fly should be tied in a certain way. If you don't add some elements, it just colapses when it gets wet. Just watch this thing when it gets wet, it's still just as large as when it's dry.

     

    Click here if the movie does not play.

     

     

  3. Hey Mike.

     

    Some good advise on here. With regards to the bobbin, if it is burrs, you will see it fray rather than snap. The 70 denier (8/0) is a tough thread to learn on because it does break easily. Once you get the feel for the tension you can give it before it breaks, it gets easy. You'll never not break thread, but just less of it. The 6/0 or 140 denier is good to learn with, but smaller flies it can be bulky. If you get a chance, come out to the Spruce Meadows show and stop by our booth. There will be a bunch of tyers there who will be happy to give you some help. Also, if you can, the Hook and Hackle club is a great idea, and a good place to pick up some new patterns.

  4. Could you post a couple of photo's of these.

    Kind of intrested in seeing how you went about things.

    Wanna learn how to tie some classic wet's but I don't tie what I don't fish......

     

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    Black Ghost 5 ways

     

    1. Standard long shank

    2. Tandem rear riding up (Spider Wire)

    3. Tube w/ octopus hook

    4. Tandem traditional (Extreme Tippet RIO)

    5. Waddinton shank w/ double up (Wire tippet)

     

    That is basically the range I'll tie these in. Each has their good and bad points, but the one I like to fish best is the Waddington. The wire tippet is a bit stiff, but the Spiderwire or Fire line is nice. These have taken some nice trout in Alberta lakes and I know SJW has fished with them a bunch on the Bow, so they will work.

  5. Could you post a couple of photo's of these.

    Kind of intrested in seeing how you went about things.

    Wanna learn how to tie some classic wet's but I don't tie what I don't fish......

     

    I'll try to get a few picks up this week. For anyone interested, I'l be doing a demo for the streamers at the Spruce meadows show next month on the 22nd.

  6. Do you find it is harder to keep a fish on when using these long streamer hooks? This was one reason I went to tubes for this kind of tie.

     

    Ya, they have a ton of leverage on a 10xl hook. these one are more for show, and a project I'm working on. The ones I fish with are usually tied either tandem, tube or waddinton / stinger.

  7. I use a bag under the vise as I tie a lot of flies and that is the most convenient spot to drop stuff. I just empty it once a month and 'm good. It holds a surprising amount of material. I keep a strong magnet on hand in case any hooks get pushed in.

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