birchy Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 Just curious.. especially after noticing this Tyler Befus kid in the latest Fly Fusion mag. 12 years old, and pro-staff for Ross Reels, Rio, Oakley, Simms, and Whiting Farms! If a 12 year old can do it... Quote
bigbowtrout Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 European Man Bag Pro Staffer Birchy I think Don needs a couple pro staffers to help sell that cane. Quote
Flytyer Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 Just curious.. especially after noticing this Tyler Befus kid in the latest Fly Fusion mag. 12 years old, and pro-staff for Ross Reels, Rio, Oakley, Simms, and Whiting Farms! If a 12 year old can do it... I'm sure his dad had a tad to do with it.....he's a big fish @ Ross Quote
KingSalmon Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 How are you at selling products? Hahaha nice Darren! Quote
ladystrange Posted February 25, 2010 Posted February 25, 2010 personally for me i was approched Quote
jack Posted February 26, 2010 Posted February 26, 2010 Don't know about others, but I look for someone who has outstanding "people skills" and who genuinely likes people and has a passion for fly fishing. They don't have to sell anything, except themselves as credible, genuine, knowledgeable, fly fishing people. I look for people who can assess the new equipment and give me constructive criticism based on their perspective. Why did I approach Ladystrange? Because she exhibited all of the above and when I asked the rest of the pro-staff crew, they gave her a thumbs up. j Quote
uliwon Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 you need to earn it, be (almost) without peer, yet approachable, helpful and communicative. one must also be able to stand at trade shows for days a mediocre return considering the time...answering bucket-loads of simplistic questions and hearing hero stories without losing that smile. Quote
TimSmith Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Uliwon I really appreciate you listening to my hero stories because nobody else will. Thks Quote
Rufusred Posted March 3, 2010 Posted March 3, 2010 From a recent issue of Mid-Current Fly Fishing New on-line: "How Do I Get on a Company's 'Pro Staff'?" Every company has its own pro-staff requirements and benefits. Just because you are a company pro doesn’t mean you get all the free gear and exotic trips you can handle. Instead, the relationship is usually mutually beneficial for the pro and the company he represents. The pro gets either free or discounted gear (although hardly an unlimited supply), and the manufacturer gets professional feedback, help with product development, and the PR boost of having their products endorsed by famous or respected anglers. To get a sense of the various programs across the industry, I asked some manufacturers to describe their programs. Here’s what they said: Jim Murphy, president, Hardy North America: “We have designated 2010 as the Year of the Sales Associate. This program requires that you must be an employee of a fly shop to be eligible for our Pro Staff. We offer a 75% discount off our product MSRP.” Jim Bartschi, president, Scott Fly Rod: “We have a professional guide program that offers discounts to verified licensed professional guides. Then we have the Scott Pro Staff. The Pro Staff differs in that they are not only professional guides or instructors, but also serve as Scott ambassadors to our dealers and customers. They help us staff shows, give presentations to both shop staff and the retailer's customers, are active in media (both print and TV/film), and provide many of the images that end up in our catalogs, ads, and Web site. They are also very active in evaluating prototype designs and incubating new ideas. Potential Pros are recommended to us by our reps and dealers. We base our selections on a number of criteria. Foremost is their relationship with authorized Scott dealers and our territory rep, since most of their activities are regionally based. We also consider their fisheries, and look for unique waters, techniques, and species. This helps us develop rods that are less mainstream than the basic 9-foot 5-weight trout rod. In turn, we actively promote our Pro Staff at shows, in our catalog, Web site, and ads. This helps their businesses and reputations.” Rick Pope, president, TFO: “We have three levels: Pro Staff: Industry professionals, key employees, guides, and media. Must be nominated by a sales representative and approved by us here in Dallas. Pro Staff members are not required to be TFO exclusive, and they receive product discounts for items used personally. Regional Advisory Staff: Members who have regional visibility and specializations within species or fisheries. Teaching is a major criteria. They are most often nominated by regional sales representatives, but Advisory Staff members contribute to both nomination and approval. They help identify regional trends and may become involved in rod design. They are also TFO exclusive and receive a mixture of free and discounted products. Advisory Staff: At-large members of the team who help with rod design, application, and general business trends. They have mastered most every aspect of the sport, they teach, and they are ambassadors for both fly fishing and TFO. Compensation varies from royalties to assistance in travel and appearance fees. It is important to know that we distinguish design from engineering; we split the job among our team.” Simon Gawesworth, Rio Products: “RIO has two different programs that might fit into the term 'Pro staff.' The first is for industry professionals, guides, outdoor writers, and shop staff. This program allows the individual to purchase a limited quantity of RIO or C&F product at a substantial discount. The validity of the person's claim to being a 'professional' is authenticated through the regional sales rep. There are no expectations from RIO for the 'pro,' except that the products they purchase on this program must be used by the pro, and not sold or given to someone else. The other program is the 'Advisory Team.' Advisory Team members are recognized experts in their field of fly fishing. They field test new and prototype products, submit ideas and designs, promote RIO exclusively in talks, articles, demonstrations, and classes, and use only RIO products in their own and loaner fishing equipment. They get promoted on the RIO Web site and sponsored with lots of free gear. The Advisory Team is kept very small and limited, and new members are only sought for after a current Advisory Team member leaves the panel.” Tom Evenson, Western ELOG Director, Orvis: “We do have a 'Pro-Program,' which offers guides and outfitters a 40 percent discount on all our gear. However, they are not allowed to refer to themselves as 'Orvis Pro Guides' or any such thing. This is basically a courtesy discount for guides in the business. Our 'Endorsement Program' is more involved. We evaluate each business on a case-by-case bases. We have several categories of 'Orvis Endorsement:' Fly Fishing Lodge, Wing Shooting Lodge, Fly Fishing Outfitter, Fly Fishing Expedition, Fly Fishing Guide Service, Fly Fishing Guide, Wing Shooting Guide, Wing Shooting Hunting Grounds, Resort, and Dog Training/Breeding. Each has a unique set of specific nuances but all have some foundational elements we evaluate. Basically, we look for guides and operations that specialize in the sporting traditions and that are a good fit to be 'field representatives' for Orvis.” Quote
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