headscan Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 I picked up a spool of the red XXF (12/0) a little while back after Chris at Fish Tales recommended it to me for chironomids. At first I was only using it for size 18 and smaller flies, but it's easily stronger than 8/0 Uni. I had lots of problems with 8/0 breaking under tension or after nicking it even slightly on the hook point, but I I haven't had the 12/0 break yet. I've since picked up more colours and use it on flies up to size 14 as long as they don't require big thread heads. It's a little more expensive than Uni thread, but the headaches it saves me make it well worth it. Has anyone tried the thicker Benecchi threads? If they're just as strong I think they'd be ideal for larger flies where you want to keep the thread bulk down but need some strength to tie in heavier wire, bunny strips, and that sort of thing. Quote
SilverDoctor Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Benecchi is very nice thread and quite strong for the size. Lots of great threads out there, depends what you're tying, if your need a thread that you have to put a lot of pressure on, or for a specific purpose. Have a few threads that fill different needs. I quite like UTC Ultra, just bought a couple of dozen in 70 & 14 Denier. Lies very flat without bulk, lot of guys use it for full dress salmon flies. I also buy a lot of Gutermann, along with pearsalls Silk for tying with. All for different tying situations. Good idea to try out a variety of various threads to see what suits your tying style and needs. Quote
bhurt Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Been using it for the past two years. Its the only type of thread I use and I use it on everything from dries to streamers. Highly recommened. Quote
headscan Posted February 15, 2010 Author Posted February 15, 2010 I quite like UTC Ultra, just bought a couple of dozen in 70 & 14 Denier. Lies very flat without bulk, lot of guys use it for full dress salmon flies. I've been tying all my streamers with UTC 140 lately. I like it a lot more than the Danville flat waxed nylon because it doesn't fray as much or slide around. I know a lot of guys split the UTC instead of using dubbing loops but I haven't tried it myself yet. Quote
SilverDoctor Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 I usually just tie an overhead knot in 140, split and spin, works great and less bulk. I've been tying all my streamers with UTC 140 lately. I like it a lot more than the Danville flat waxed nylon because it doesn't fray as much or slide around. I know a lot of guys split the UTC instead of using dubbing loops but I haven't tried it myself yet. Quote
Pipestoneflyguy Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Cool Idea - gonna pick some up and try splitting instead - equally frustrated with 8 uni as well, took me forever to figure out that I had a micro-scratch on one of my ceramic bobbins that seemed to contribute to alot of breaking this weekend - problem dissapeared once I switched to a stainless tip again - had to re-tie about 20 small dries, grrrrrrr - I'll give the Benecchi a try instead if its a little stronger Quote
SilverDoctor Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 If you have a bobbin with a nick in the pipe you can try to work it out with emery cloth or crazy glue a glass bead to the tip, it will get you by for a while. Cool Idea - gonna pick some up and try splitting instead - equally frustrated with 8 uni as well, took me forever to figure out that I had a micro-scratch on one of my ceramic bobbins that seemed to contribute to alot of breaking this weekend - problem dissapeared once I switched to a stainless tip again - had to re-tie about 20 small dries, grrrrrrr - I'll give the Benecchi a try instead if its a little stronger Quote
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