jjthom2 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Took these pics of logging thats been done on the banks of the upper Red Deer river this summer. The logging companies are clear cutting the entire slope and leaving a 50' strip of trees along the bank. I wonder if there will be a heavy sediment load from run off next spring?!! Sure hope the Bull trout eggs like hatching through mud. I can't believe these practices are allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Pretty ugly. A shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sundancefisher Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Pretty ugly. A shame... Report to DFO and F&W to make sure they check the setbacks at least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesG Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Unfortunately timber brings more money to the government then a bunch of fly fisherman fishing for bulltrout. Thats the way it is and the way it will always continue to be in this province. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 420FLYFISHIN Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 hahaha, if you dont like that then dont go down from the dam. There are stretches where is clear cut to the bank and logs with chains have been dumped in the river to help prevent erosion. I dont have any pics but when i went through this spring its is HUGE areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwoodfisher Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjthom2 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 hahaha, if you dont like that then dont go down from the dam. There are stretches where is clear cut to the bank and logs with chains have been dumped in the river to help prevent erosion. I dont have any pics but when i went through this spring its is HUGE areas Don't trees and their roots prevent erosion??? Meanwhile the town of sundre wants to redirect the river to keep their dykes from eroding away next flood and we log the valley almost to the banks. Does anyone have any idea how much rainfall an acre of spruce forest can absorb??? There should be a law that keeps logging 500m or so from the banks of any waterway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harps Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If you have an issue please send it to SRD- foresty (they regulate and inspect cuttblock setbacks) and Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) in Calgary. Address it to the Senior Habitat Biologist Put Ocurrence on the _________ River in the Subject heading and request a response. Email it to: ReferralsCalgary@dfo-mpo.gc.ca or mail to: Calgary Office Fisheries and Oceans Canada 7646 - 8th St NE Calgary, Alberta T2E 8X4 Call 403-292-5160 for a follow-up. You could also send it straight to the Officers in Edmonton at: Conservation and Protection Fisheries and Oceans Canada Whitemud Business Park 4253 - 97th St Edmonton, Alberta T6E 5Y7 It needs to be dealt with if you think its a problem. While loggng makes more money than fishing, fish protection has stronger legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjthom2 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 If you have an issue please send it to SRD- foresty (they regulate and inspect cuttblock setbacks) and Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) in Calgary. Address it to the Senior Habitat Biologist Put Ocurrence on the _________ River in the Subject heading and request a response. Email it to: ReferralsCalgary@dfo-mpo.gc.ca or mail to: Calgary Office Fisheries and Oceans Canada 7646 - 8th St NE Calgary, Alberta T2E 8X4 Call 403-292-5160 for a follow-up. You could also send it straight to the Officers in Edmonton at: Conservation and Protection Fisheries and Oceans Canada Whitemud Business Park 4253 - 97th St Edmonton, Alberta T6E 5Y7 It needs to be dealt with if you think its a problem. While loggng makes more money than fishing, fish protection has stronger legislation. I'll do that. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingshooter Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Before calling your MLA and sending out some letters, a little research turned up some interesting reading. For reference check on Table 2 on page 24 under large permanent streams. http://www.srd.gov.ab.ca/forests/pdf/Sundr...les-Aug2009.pdf Unfortunately the law is written to clarify the rules the logging companies must follow therefore there is little that can be done unless the operating ground rules were to reflect a 500 m buffer on all large perms. Which Red Deer, Calgary and Edmonton would all have to moved I don't think that will happen anytime soon. I hate to see stream and river encroachment as much as anybody just look @ the new development on Ghost Res. Ouch that is an eye sore. Approved by all levels of government including DFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher26 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Ahh, what can you do? You have to get toilet paper from somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjthom2 Posted October 4, 2009 Author Share Posted October 4, 2009 Before calling your MLA and sending out some letters, a little research turned up some interesting reading. For reference check on Table 2 on page 24 under large permanent streams. http://www.srd.gov.ab.ca/forests/pdf/Sundr...les-Aug2009.pdf Unfortunately the law is written to clarify the rules the logging companies must follow therefore there is little that can be done unless the operating ground rules were to reflect a 500 m buffer on all large perms. Which Red Deer, Calgary and Edmonton would all have to moved I don't think that will happen anytime soon. I hate to see stream and river encroachment as much as anybody just look @ the new development on Ghost Res. Ouch that is an eye sore. Approved by all levels of government including DFO. It just blows my mind that such practices are allowed when they are so obviously detrimental to not only the rivers and the fish, but all the communities along the river. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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