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According to the map on page 50 of this document: https://bit.ly/2nvgq5x the Rocking P. chunk is the only privately owned piece along the river. The cabin I found was on the East side of the road and further North than the Rocking P. chunk, so it must be something else.
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Does anyone have any details about an a-frame cabin that sits next to the Liv? I was fishing in the valley the other day and stumbled across the cabin which is surrounded by a fence - sure looks like private property to me. I thought that entire valley was public land other than the Blue Bronna camp?
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I've been fly fishing for about 10 years now. I've had a lot of success. Most rivers in southern Alberta I have figured out, but the Bow continues to puzzle me. A few days last year I had a ton of success on dries, but other than that it sends me home skunked more often than not.
Recently I've been thinking of paying a pro for a 2 hour session on what I need to do differently to have success on the Bow.
My questions are: is spending the money worth it, or can I just read what I need online? And if I am going to pay, who would you recommend and how much would they charge?
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I nymph a lot, its how I learned. I catch the odd Whitey now and then but, mainly its Trout. That said, I go against the grain on leader length. I believe the general rule is to use a leader twice as long as the water is deep. I can't do that. If I'm fishing a 3 nymph rig, it will be less than 9' to the last fly and will end up moving the indy sooner than later. I always fish a short leader unless the situation dictates change, typically 6ish' or less from indy to last fly. Last time out I had a buddy dredging bottom, he managed two. I managed 17, fishing short. Way more control and feel as well. give it a try.
Try not using a San Juan either (if you use one), whiteys love the worm. Use a weighted Jimmy Legs or a big stonefly nymph to get it down. Or a Bead head PT tied in a size 10 or 12.
With a shorter rig, I'm guessing you do not get a lot of false bumps on the indicator (when it hits a rock or bottom), and instead when the indicator moves it's typically a fish?
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Thanks for all the replies everyone! I can't wait to get out again to try some of the suggestions. At the end of the day, I'd rather catch 5 whitefish and no trout than catch nothing at all.
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They'll share a run, but it's pretty rare to get a whitefish and trout in back to back casts without moving. I agree with everything George was saying.
Also, in the conditions post you said you got your fish on a worm. It's probably not much of a guess to say you're always worming? Whiteys love the worm
Actually my fly of choice is usually the prince. I typically use that or a pheasant tail. We had tried most of the usual flies throughout the morning. My sister switched to a worm and caught a whitefish, so I switched to one as well just so I could possibly catch something
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Whitefish tend to feed a bit less selectively than trout, hang out in pods and are physically less aggressive, so rule #1: when you hook a whitefish, MOVE because chances are a) there are 10 more right beside him and the trout are either feeding elsewhere or hanging out not feeding.
At this time of year the trout will move into faster and shallower water, and by mid-summer will be in the fastest chop you find on the Bow, as well as along the banks. Some of the very biggest fish will be in slow, glassy, shallow water because they are no longer vulnerable to ospreys and can feed without expending energy. In water like that a whitefish would last just minutes before being lifted away to its doom.
So generally speaking, whitefish and trout do not feed in the same section of water?
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I've been trying to learn how to successfully nymph for a few years now, and I've gotten to the point where I can usually catch fish, but all I ever seem to catch are whitefish. It doesn't really matter which water body I'm fishing, it's usually whitefish that I end up hooking.
Just wondering if I might be doing something wrong or different that would cause me to avoid trout so consistently?
Are whitefish just more forgiving to bad technique, or do they hang out closer to the bottom?
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Weird request, but I'm wondering if anyone in Calgary and area might own a mid-nineties 4.0 l Ford Ranger with the A4LD transmission? I have the 94 XLT 4x4 model and I recently had the tranny rebuilt. I swear that after the rebuild I have way weaker acceleration and require higher rpms just to get going at a normal speed. The tranny shop says everything is normal, but I'd love to test drive a similar truck to see if there is any difference. Can anyone help me out? I would exchange some beer for a quick test drive
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So are the Highwood tribs closed? I was at Cataract this weekend and advised two fly fisherman to stop fishing because all the tribs were included in the closure. Based on the map it says the entire watershed, but based on the listing it looks like the river only.
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I'm reading the regs and trying to get a grasp on what exactly is considered an "obstacle". As the regs say:
Fishing is prohibited by any method within 23 metres downstream of the lower entrance of any fishway, canal, obstacle or leap. Weirs and dams are considered obstacles.
Are you permitted to fish at the base of a waterfall? What about a fallen tree? I've seen a few natural waterfalls that look nearly identical to a weir.
Thoughts? Has anyone asked a CO about this regulation?
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Stuff like this combined with the ever-increasing ATV streambed cruises makes me wonder if we will even have fishing opportunities 10 years from now. I imagine we will always have our stocked ponds and lakes, but it seems like the possibilities for plentiful stream and river fishing are becoming worse and worse each year. It makes me feel stick to my stomach.
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First result on Google. I found this and it helped immensely:
Thanks!
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I've seen a lot of posts where people say they were having success "on the swing". I'm just wondering what technique they are referring to and where it might be used?
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My sister and I are going backpacking in two weeks and the place we were planning to go in K-country will almost certainly be closed to access. The place we were planning to go to was about a 2 hour fairly easy hike in, then we would set up camp and fish the creek it was next to for a few days. We typically do this backpacking/fishing trip every year. The creek offered decent fishing and we rarely, if ever, saw another soul.
Any suggestions on some places we could go? Looking for a very similar experience (2 hour hike, creek or lake with fishing opportunities, not too popular). No need to give away any secret fishing holes or anything, but just looking for some options. Within a 2 hour drive of Calgary would be preferred, but not a deal-breaker. PM if necessary.
Thanks!
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I was out yesterday and caught this guy. It certainly didn't look like all the other cookie cutter brookies I was catching. Hybrid or just a brookie that is missing the orange spots and green hue?
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I emailed the realtor to let him know.
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Is that the disappearing fork of the Ghost (the dry fork)? Only runs in higher water flows, the rest of the time disappears underground, pops up here and there in the water course, never any fish in it that I recall.
Yes, they've set up a diversion that moves the flow of the river more to the west to connect with Lake Minnewanka, and the primary fork is dry most of the year other than during runoff. The enormity of the dry "floodplain" of the primary fork is pretty neat to see.
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Doesn't that lead into the back end of Minnewanka? Years back a buddy and I would park where the Trans Alta road crossed the river and fish the beaver dams upstream. Lotsa Brookies. Mmmm...them's good eatin'
Yep, same area. We tried fishing where it heads toward Minnewanka and where the road crosses the river and not a fish in sight. Might just be the time of year.
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For the past few years, I've been dying to go check out the "mystery" from Barry Mitchell's Alberta's Trout Highway book, and today a buddy and I took his 4x4 truck and finally did it. For those who aren't familiar, in his book in the section for the Ghost River, he talks about driving the TransAlta road west from highway 40, and going down a "big hill", then he goes on to say:
If you enjoy a good mystery, turn left at the bottom of the hill and follow the track across the floodplain. If you go far enough, you'll find something that blew me away. If you go a little farther and pay attention, you’ll come to some big gravel cliffs on the riverbank. Park here and fish your way upstream to the “waterfall.” If that doesn't make you scratch your head in wonder, nothing will. Have fun.
We found the "big hill" and we turned left and basically drove down every track we could find until we hit dead ends. We didn't come across anything that "blew us away", but we're pretty sure we found the gravel cliffs he was referring to. We followed the river upstream to what we think was the "waterfall", which is basically just a bridge-type structure that has two large steel tubes to control the flow of water. It was a little bit of a mystery what exactly it was there for, but certainly not to the level I was hoping based on Barry's description. My thoughts are that either: A - We didn't find what he was referring to in his book; B - Whatever he was referring to is no longer there; or C - We found what he was talking about, we were just less baffled than he was.
Has anyone else tried to uncover this "mystery" before? Or does anyone know that area well enough to say what he might be referring to?
As an aside, we drove to the end of the TransAlta road heading right at the bottom of the "big hill" and fished the river upstream from there for a couple hours. We didn't see a single fish, but we found lots of good-looking pools.
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You do know you are allowed to keep more then white fish.
Here is the general regulations for sport fishin in ablerta
http://www.albertaregulations.ca/pdfs/fish...Regulations.pdf
Trout limit is 0 downstream of K-country for the Highwood River
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http://www.buyalbertaland.com/index.php?op...7&Itemid=57
Apparently this land comes with permission to ignore the Alberta fishing regs
I'm guessing the listing was written by the realtor? Maybe they should modify it to say "Fish for whitefish for dinner (June 26 - Oct 31)"
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Just wondering if anyone knows the "rules" regarding streams and rivers inside the K-country boundary. Are you legally allowed to walk above the high water mark? Is there any private property in K-country? Or can you just walk as you please crossing whatever land you'd like?
Cabin on the Liv
in General Chat - Not Fishing Related (NFR)
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You can't see it in the photo but there is a solar panel and satellite dish on the side.