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why dont you ask her.......
http://www.moldychum.com/home-old/2010/7/1...l.html#comments
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I think more than anything, pieing a politician is symbolic as we all know. The act of hitting someone in the face with pie isn't an assault on the person as much as it is an assault on their emotions for being "pied".
Unfortunatly I would regard this as a case of assault because if you're going to pie someone, you need a hell of alot of people behind you saying "YAH GOOD JOB" but when you pie someone because you and 3 or 4 other people don't like someones point of view, you're just being ignorant. I wonder how the americans would feel if we pied their leaders for allowing people to shoot off fireworks? The facts are that the seal hunt is has a multitude of benefits and in no way jeaporizes the sustainable populations of seals. Seals have been hunted for hundreds of years and although some people may not like the fact that they are bludgeoned to death and see this as "inhumane". This seems quite a random thing to be pissed off about and given the multitude of other inhumane acts going on in the world, I wish this stupid bitch would keep her nose out of our countries buisness.
I am angered by how ignorant and self centered the americans are, to think that they have a legitimate reason to come and terrorise our politicians, as if they have absolutely nothing inhumane happening on their own soil. I'm inclined to agree that this was a form of terrorism based on just that argument alone. If this was a canadian tossing the pie, yah give them a slap on the wrist, but because it's an american who has ABSOLUTELY no right to cross our border and assault our politicians, toss her in jail and keep her there for as long as possible. And I would think canada should blacklabel her and her ENTIRE family as terrorists and not allow them in the country.
the EU is banning seal products not the americans
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I am angered by how ignorant and self centered the americans are, to think that they have a legitimate reason to come and terrorise our politicians, as if they have absolutely nothing inhumane happening on their own soil. I'm inclined to agree that this was a form of terrorism based on just that argument alone. If this was a canadian tossing the pie, yah give them a slap on the wrist, but because it's an american who has ABSOLUTELY no right to cross our border and assault our politicians, toss her in jail and keep her there for as long as possible. And I would think canada should blacklabel her and her ENTIRE family as terrorists and not allow them in the country.
blaming a whole country for one persons stupidity is the stupidest thing i have ever read on this site (that is saying a lot ). wait sorry including the individuals family in this persons actions. jesus i knew there was reason to stay away from here. this statement just rectorates it for me. im going back to the drake
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Federal fisheries minister Gail Shea’s comments about Skeena River sockeye salmon returns show why regional management is needed, said the New Democratic Party MLA for Stikine, Doug Donaldson.
“Maybe the salmon will return a year later,” Shea said in an interview on CBC radio’s All Points West during her visit to Prince Rupert yesterday. “Nobody knows what’s happening in the marine environment.”
To suggest salmon might be a year late returning shows a lack of knowledge, said Donaldson. “That’s absolutely asinine,” he said. “It flies in the face of how the migration cycle works with sockeye.”
The fish have always returned on a four-year-cycle and are not likely to suddenly change, he said. “Evolution just doesn’t quite work that way.”
In July the Department of Fisheries and Oceans predicted Skeena sockeye returns would be average, but by December local news reports said the returns had collapsed.
The federal government has launched an inquiry into the collapse of the Fraser River sockeye run and Shea said in the CBC interview that maybe some of the recommendations will also apply to the Skeena.
Donaldson said it’s time to act on a January, 2009, report from the Pacific Salmon Forum, chaired by former fisheries minister John Fraser. It recommended considering a watershed governance model that shares decision making between provincial, federal and first nation governments
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this is why you never trust oil companies or the people that work for them. my favorite line in this video is you are lucky. just like the oil companies
tell the people of alberta and fort mac
........................................................... http://vimeo.com/3213063 ...........................
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that he did not use a guide
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The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has estimated that a collapse of this ice sheet would raise sea levels around the world by about 16.5 feet, on average, and that figure is still widely used. However, that theoretical average does not consider several key forces, such as gravity, changes in the Earth’s rotation or a rebound of the land on which the massive glacier now rests, scientists say in the new study.
Right now, this ice sheet has a huge mass, towering more than 6,000 feet above sea level over a large section of Antarctica that’s about the size of Texas. This mass is sufficient to exert a substantial gravitational attraction, researchers say, pulling water toward it – much as the gravitational forces of the sun and moon cause the constant movement of water on Earth commonly known as tides.
A study was done more than 30 years ago pointing out this gravitational effect, but for some reason it became virtually ignored. People forgot about it when developing their sea level projections for the future.”
Aside from incorporating the gravitational effect, the new study adds further wrinkles to the calculation – the weight of the ice forcing down the land mass on which it sits, and also affecting the orientation of the Earth’s spin. When the ice is removed, it appears the underlying land would rebound, and the Earth’s axis of rotation defined by the North and South Pole would actually shift about one-third of a mile, also affecting the sea level at various points.
When these forces are all taken into calculation, the sea level anywhere near Antarctica would actually fall, the report concludes, while many other areas, mostly in the Northern Hemisphere, would go up.
If the West Antarctic Ice Sheet completely melted, the East Coast of North America would experience sea levels more than four feet higher than had been previously predicted – almost 21 feet – and the West Coast, as well as Miami, Fla., would be about a foot higher than that. Most of Europe would have seas about 18 feet higher.
If this did happen, there would also be many other impacts that go far beyond sea level increase, including much higher rates of coastal erosion, greater damage from major storm events, problems with ground water salinization, and other issues. And there could be correlated impacts on other glaciers and ice sheets in coastal areas that could tend to destabilize them as well.”
It’s still unclear, Clark said, when or if a breakup of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet might occur, or how fast it could happen. It may not happen for hundreds of years, he said, and even then it may not melt in its entirety. Research should continue to better understand the forces at work, he said.
However, these same effects apply to any amount of melting that may occur from West Antarctica. So many coastal areas need to plan for greater sea level rise than they may have expected.
A significant part of the concern is that much of the base of this huge ice mass actually sits below sea level, forced down to the bedrock by the sheer weight of the ice above it. Its edges flow out into floating ice shelves, including the huge Ross Ice Shelf and Ronne Ice Shelf. This topography makes it “inherently unstable,” Clark said.
There is widespread concern that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, which is characterized by extensive marine-based sectors, may be prone to collapse in a warming world. the researchers wrote in their report.
Both digital images and video of the impact around the world of sea level increases up six meters can be obtained at this web site: https://www.cresis.ku.edu/research/data/sea...rise/index.html
A digital image of what Antarctica would look like if it consisted only of land actually above sea level is also available at this URL: http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/photos/RonneFichner.JPG
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if you know how to cast you dont need a guide you can always just . DIY .it is the only true why to fish. i have traveled to many places around the world and always diy fished. even if it is hard. the ones you do catch will be worth a thousand times more then some paid dude kissing your :$*%&: for a tip. the second money exchanges hands it loses its purity.(even if you get skunked. you can take some pride in that you are not just another :$*%&: paying for a fish)
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if you caught any one of those fish with a guide they are not your fish they are the guides, i love people that go to the salt and brag about all the fish they caught. when all they really did was listen get pointed in the right direction and cast. you should rewrite your list on diy only fish caught. in salt that means reading your own tide charts,reading your map picking location , picking your fly , seeing the fish your self , making the cast , catching the fish. these are the only pure fish caught .
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We need the food. We need the fuel. What is the difference? IMHO
whats the difference lol
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we can not stop the fish farms or the commercial fishery. those people jobs and pay checks are why more important then the preservation of the natural wilderness. i think it is just a cycle we should just continue on and get paid.there is just why to many jobs at stake to change.
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Wow....go away for a couple of days and you boys are still all in the sandbox.
I typed out this huge, long reply and then deleted it. I'm done with wading into anything but a river - especially when it comes to this topic. BUT....I really feel compelled to say this. Certain people who believe that they can live and/or work in Alberta and not be affected by the boom and bust of the oil and gas industry is delusional and hypocritical and need a smack in the head with the baseball bat of reality.
Case in point: I lost my job with an oilfield services company - whose work contracts in the oil and gas industry represented 45% of revenue. The other 55% was affected as well...company spiralled downwards, me and lots of others are gone. Case in point #2: my husband runs a construction company. When things fell in Alberta late last year and early this year, so did his business - oil companies aren't spending money, everything comes to a halt...just starting to recover. Case in point #3 - my son works for Tim Hortons. Up until this spring he had alot of hours and a good paycheque. Now he's barely getting 4 hours a week, if that. All across the board in terms of jobs and industries - ALL AFFECTED BY THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. Careful what we wish for.
So...in short....did anyone write any letters to anybody that matters or to anyone of influence or is the discussion merely contained to this board once again.
I gotta go find that dead horse graphic now.
all of your arguments are based on money and yes i am aware of its importance but it is far from everything,
stop believing there is no other way then oil.yes we are all linked in someway, but that does not mean my job is balancing on the oilsands. come to my house and hit me with a bat of reality. 535 8ave se buzzer 082
oh yea im pretty sure sl wont be back. now you in the oil industry rickr can go unchecked on here and can dominate these debates with your superior writing skills.he said what i wish i could. just like you did for your side only he uses facts oh guess you rick couldnt let sl have the last word.
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. I cannot tell you how wrong your are.
I WAS NOT SPEAKING TO YOU PERSONALLY. PLEASE TELL ME HOW I AM WRONG. I AM FAR FROM PERFECT
there is much more i can do to lower my carbon footprint. most of my carbon footprint comes from my pursuit of fish and nature.i just think that in this province that we are so caught in the fear that the oil industry push on us that oil is the only way. we should have taken all the money the government made in the last boom and put it toward renewable energy technologies. instead we are going to get caught sitting on your hands we are reacting to slow. this thread is a microcosm of what is wrong with our government. i wonder how you would all feel if the oilsands were up stream of the crowsnest or the bow or the oldman i bet not one of you can tell me you would not want it stopped without delay. down stream of the oil sands there is increased cases of cancer, there maybe no direct link to the oil sands but would you not want it stopped if you lived there. if five hundred trout died because of tailing pond entered the bow how would you feel. if the oil sands were stopped it would force us to change.the oilsands is in a very special place the destruction of it is not worth your house in douglasdale. you know a trout will rise to caddis untill there is none left or if he gets hooked by one.
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Isn't CBC one of the largest broadcasting compaines in Canada?
Also do they not depend heavly on veiwership and ratings?
I dunno but I see lots that CBC has to lose.
I must be crazy though.
bhurt read this sentence slowly
CBC DID NOT DO THE RESEARCH THEY JUST PUBLISHED IT.
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Isn't CBC one of the largest broadcasting compaines in Canada?
Also do they not depend heavly on veiwership and ratings?
I dunno but I see lots that CBC has to lose.
I must be crazy though.
cbc did not do the research .
i have not seen any research that disputes that oil sands help with the production of acid rain.
if the oil companies wish too produce oil from the oilsands that is what they are going to do. i and many like me
will not stop trying to shut them down. i will vote and i will write letters. what really makes me mad is they try and convince us that what they are doing is not detrimental to us and our enviroment or that we have no other choice. if you work for the oil industry and you tell me that it is environmental sound industry you are ether brainwashed or are wrapped up in your own success $$$$$. i used to work in an industry that was indirectly affected by the oil industry. oil goes down less work for me and my friends. even then i never believed that my choice of work was morally right so i got a new job.i suggest all oil workers do this. with self sacrifice this is always possible.if you do not think what you are ding is wrong all the power to you but remember this. the oil industry does not care about you and your families look what they did 10 months ago. i sleep much better at night knowing that my choice of work does not help with the destruction of the human race and many other species on this planet.(by the way i left my job two years ago for less money, quit not fired)
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It is a fact that there is more C02 in the atmosphere now than there ever has been during the last several hundred million years and it will be detrimental to several life forms; there are several reliable geological methods to prove facts such as this.
Where did you get that? Did anyone measure the CO2 levels 65 million years ago? I just hate faulty science. What about the Maunder Minimum or for that matter the Dalton Minimum? And how much money is tied up in the enviromental activist industry? What is Greenpeace's budget? Who does it really benefit? We really should worry more about water seeing that only 3% of the earths water is fresh and only 0.3% is available. What happens when that gets used up? The average Calgarian uses 7000 L per month. Want to do something that really impacts the environment, conserve water.
not sure but i think that climate change helps to increase the melting of our polar ice caps, aswell as glaciers both of these are made of fresh water. maybe slowing climate change would help
aswell as getting a low flow toilet.
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it is not worse then it was before you are falling victim to the fear that our society manufactures. look at the stats. you can stay inside grndrake and hide from what might happen. plus they were with a cop ang had a phone im sure they would of been fine.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/200...ics-report.html
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teenagers drink because we tell them they cant. they jump off cliffs because it is dangerous. do you think some fines will stop them from doing this i believe not. it will only make it more thrilling for them (fear of the cops coming). the police tactics do not work. it will only make them rebel more against old man authority. "stupid pig gave me a ticket, lets go to your place and drink your parents are not home right now. and you got an xbox right" how much better do you think it would of been if the rcmps would have went down there took the booze and gave them a story on why it is dangerous. just grabbing the kid that did the hit and run im sure would have been enough.lost money (tickets) are not away to reach young adults. its tough being that age.
talk to them. they obviously dont listen to the parents warning. maybe a cool cop or fishermen will help even one of them. im sure the tickets will only help our government finances.
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i am sure that all of them did not need to be cleaned up after. there is good and bad kids in every group. i just think that there is far worse things that kids can be doing. time spent in the outdoors makes us learn to appreciate it , especially as we mature.
kicking them out of places like that will only push them to other places. there is many good pools down stream and upstream of there. i would of talked to them about not littering and not tell them to stop jumping and swimming. maybe even jump in myself. it is far easyer to lead a friend in the right direction then be a old man waving your finger. you grndrake say you were a good kid. but i was not i changed, but not from people telling me what to do but by my friends and family influencing me with there actions and attitudes.
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good thing you had them busted. maybe next weekend they can spend some of there free time at the mall. how quickly we forget what it was like to be young. maybe picking up some of the garbage and leading by example is to much to ask, from law enforcement.
yours truly
former cliff jumping booze drinking teenager
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