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I wouldn't use a telescoping wading staff. Remember you are using it to regain your balance after you have slipped or for an extra balance point while wading and walking in current. I don't think that having a section collapse while leaning on the pole will help much with keeping you from getting dunked. I use a sprinkbrook one with the shockcord and to make it more rigid I put a couple wraps of electrical tape around each section so it doesn't pull apart while using it.

And I am to assume your stating jet boats are responsible for the destruction and erossion of river banks isn't stupid I believe you said by a foot each time a boat passes is that statement intelligent? Come on, you know there is no truth to that statement and as already pointed out who cares a river is an actively moving environment that will move on its on course back and forth across its own valley eroding its banks as it does it. My point on pollution, Banff, Canmore, Cochrane and Calgary which is well over 1,000,000 people and their associated garbage live along the Bow River. Anyone who fishes the river along these streches and south of Calgary is fully aware of the pollution that these 4 cities are introducing into the river every day. We all see it wade over it boat by it and even occasionally snag it while fishing. Removing jet boats from the river will do nothing towards cleaning up this problem. It is an unrealistic expectation to force upon one group of people using a resource. So you get my jet boat banned from the river. I drive down to policeman's and walk and wade thru all of the garbage the following year wondering how having banned my jet boat from the river made the situation any better since it didn't turn off any of the garbage that is coming into the river from the cities every day. I guess on a plus note I can look forward to walking two or three miles to have a guide in a drift boat pull in to the bank I'm currently fishing to be low holed by a guide who informs me with "I'm a guide these people are paying to fish here find someplace else to fish its no big deal". I agree there are lots of people who want to share the same resource but how is a guide in a drift boat low holing a wade and walk fisherman out of a spot they walked two or three miles to get to any different then a jet boat harrassing a drift boat. Should we ban drift boats for the walk and wade fisherman next, where does this end? There are lots of people trying to use the same resource because there are lots of people here, I would think that a little common courtesy would be the better solution and all groups continue to enjoy the river as best they can without interfering with the other users day. The only inconvience I deal with if it even is one is waiting for the drift boats to put in, after that once I'm in the water I don't have a issue for the rest of the day. I don't need to race drift boats to slots and I don't take holes or try and share holes with a guy that has walked a couple of miles and I still catch my fish. I get on a hot bank I can drive to the top and drift down fishing using the oars and if the fish are still going I can drive back up and drift it again. My only issue with this entire thread is why ban me? I don't interfer with anyone else's day I don't need to to have a great day on the river so why ban my boat from the river? What does it accomplish? I have ever right to fish the Bow as any other Calgarian if I don't intrude or interfer with your day why should you be able to impact my day. And for the record don't dump on trolling a rapala behind a jet boat until you've tried it you can get some nice fish doing it, just saying.

I knew if the card was played that the wake is erroding the river bank that this one on 2-stroke motors was coming. I would bet that all of the jet boat traffic combined on the river doesn't even begin to add up to less than a 0.005% of the pollution that it introduced by the City of Calgary sewer system and runoff from cars on the city streets. Come on people time to get real, all your talking about is restricting the river for your own use period. In the case of a guide for selfish reasons of greed. Why don't we call a spade a spade and really think about the repercussions of what banning means. How many people on this forum fished the Elk River for cuththoart before they made it classified water. This initative was spearheaded by the guides pimping the Elk. It was to keep Albertans off so they could get more Americans to come and fill there personal bank accounts because the Albertans didn't need them to catch fish. I would say it didn't work out to well for Fernie though. The Albertans have stopped coming in droves because for the most part we don't want to pay a daily fee to fish and the flyshops, resturants, gas stations and hotels are paying for it. So why would I as an Albertan want to sit back and let one group dictate who and how our river gets used. I for one will not sit by and go quietly into the night so some guide can pimp the river while preventing me form using it so he can benefit financially from the change of use and I can't fish it. And for the record who cares if a jet boat wake makes the bank muddy for a minute or moves some sediment into the river, the river is going to eventually take the bank anyway that what rivers do.

Really, your going to start with that argument now. Come on, how stupid do you take people to be. A river is constantly erroding and moving on its own. The banks are being erroded and cut every day by the river as it flows. Did you overlook the fact that a river is moving sediment off of one cutbank to deposit on the next inside channel corner bar everyday or overlook that the bedload of the river moves constantly because the river is constanly flowing. The wake from a boat is not going to even begin to have any impact on a river. Rivers flow and rivers migrate all on their own, they don't move because jet boats go by, come on. Let me guess you must also believe that man is responsible for global warming and the hole in the ozone layer so we should probably ban jet boats. Jet boats must be the reason that seam that fished so good two years ago is now filled in and the channel shifted. It can't be anything else, we need to get rid of those jet boats before my next honey hole gets filled in. Rivers change, slots move but guess what, the fish move when the slots move and you find them again wherever the slot moved to. I don't buy what your selling, I'm still going to take my jet boat out and fish first water most of the day and I will sleep ok with the knowledge I am not destroying the river and making it migrate out of its existing valley.

Yes I did read your post and the one you were responding to for that matter: QUOTE (Ulmo @ Apr 30 2012, 09:43 PM) motorized boats should be banned, down to carseland weir - why? when i think of The Blue Ribbon Bow as a world renowned flyfishing destination - im sorry, motorized boats dont come to mind. i could only guess at the horror a guide must feel, taking 500$ plus from a couple guys who flew to calgary from afar, only to have a beautiful day interupted by a screaming boat... motorized boats are for lakes, not rivers. just one guys opinion. "amen. I've had dozens over the years say they would not be back due to that very thing. they came for a peaceful fly fishing experience, not a gong show. hell I even had a couple folks last summer parked in a side channel fishing and a jet came and did a lap around us. another one did donuts around us just up from mackinnon's. this sort of stuff is a joke and puts off people from spending the tourism dollars in calgary buying food, fuel, fishing tackle, and a whole lot of other things that keep albertan's in business. so yes I feel pretty strongly about having no motorized boats on the bow above carseland, but I also realize they are extremely handy and a great fishing tool if used properly. It's kind of like quads... the asshats ruin it for all the responsible folks." The post you were responding to clearly states in black and white BAN JET BOATS ON THE BOW, your selfish guide response to put more money in your pocket " amen. I've had dozens over the years say they would not be back due to that very thing. they came for a peaceful fly fishing experience, not a gong show." Or maybe I didn't understand when you said "so yes I feel pretty strongly about having no motorized boats on the bow above carseland" your right I must not have read your post. So now your saying it is Albertan's saying this to you or maybe just people from other provinces and not Americans? Regardless of who it is your point is quite clear, you make a living off of rowing people down the river. Apparently the jet boats harrass you and your clients destroying the whole pimping scenario, they are left to upset to tip and so distraught they won't come back so you can pimp the river out again for aother $500 off of them. The fact is guide, I don't see you or even worry about you once I have left the boat launch. I fish first water until late in the afternoon when the flotilla of guides that launched from upstream are finally making their way down to me. Do I go and circle the boats one at a time and swamp them before heading down river, no. I head back down and fish thru the strectches below the launch that have been rested since the last drift boats of the morning went by. "Now back to your concocted twisting of the truth to attempt to make guides look like the idiots. We are the ones trying to protect the very resource you feel so strongly about. Didnt see your name donating to streamwatch lately." If you are implying guides are the only people interested in protecting the river nice try. Before I had kids I voluntered for 5yrs on the Trout Unlimited Calgary Dinner Committee. I worked towards bringing large oil industry items to the auction that were pre-sold and donated by industry. The result of my work led to a change in what and how the dinner was organized. This one change made this one night fund raiser the largest fund raiser Trout Unlimited has increasing the money raised from $200k in a night to over the $1,000,000. So to answer your question yes I have contributed in fact I'm sure it would add up to allot more then you would ever contribute. So getting back to the message you are trying to put across, BAN JET BOATS from the Bow so I can make more money pimping the river, whatever. The Bow flows thru a city of over 1,000,000 people and guess what some of us have jet boats. I don't care if you want to strut around at a boat launch crowing how awesome you are. Just get in your boat and get going. I can patiently wait until your gone because I'm not going your way anyway. But BAN me from personally enjoying a river that flows in my city so you can have it for yourself to pimp out and make $500 plus mandatory tip, good luck to you.

Besides a guide who really cares what an American thinks about our river. You fish I'm sure this isn't the only river you fish and you have probably fished in the US or at least the lower mainland in BC which is as heavily populated as most areas of the US. Any american who fishes that tells you he isn't coming back because he saw a jet boat is full of it. They will come back if they enjoyed their outing and that is on you not whether a boat went by. Imagine that, a guide wants to BAN jet boats so americans can enjoy their day. The guy in the jet boat is an Albertan so how about you let him enjoy his day and the 99% of the guys fishing out them will be courteous as usual even sitting back to let the holier then thou guides launch their drift boat first so they can row off making their $500 pimping the river. All this talk is about one thing only ,"lets restrict the resource so I can benefit from it". I have a tip for you new pontoon owners and driftboat pimps if you don't want to be run over by a jetboat then don't drop your anchor in the middle of the only water deep enough in a stretch for a jet boat to get thru safely. I have had a jet on the river for 12yrs and know how to reduce my wake to safely pass. I have not ever run anyone over or swamped a boat but have on to many occasions had to turn back up or down river because a driftboat had dropped anchor in the only water passable. In fact I rarely see another boat once I've left the launch I find the drift boats and pontoons have trouble rowing upstream from the launch to keep up. I pretty much spend the entire day to myself. Good Luck with your quest to remove Albertans from enjoying their waters so you can pimp more money off the americans on your own private river. Be sure and send me a copy of your petition I'll sign it for sure.