Mykiss
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I like to use a 6/7 and or 7/8 that will toss big nasties...My 6/7 throws a 22.5' 525 grain with medium MOW tips and covers most of my big bugs... However when I'm into tossing dead chickens I'll use the 7/8 with a 25.5' 575 grain with heavy MOW's
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come on guys lets keep it civil... stop the personal bashing.. we all wish and want shoulda woulda coulda in the end it's a wait and see thing
Agreed....
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Isn't a dead drift under a bobber in reality bait fishing anyhoo?
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The picture of the sweep with the load on the rod is pretty neato....
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Nothing new Rick, seems to be the biggest in the steelhead world...just have to have a passionate guy tell you about raising a steelhead to a dry and you understand why they don't care about landing them
Correct!!
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I think we should all just cut the hooks off and count the number of pulls you get.....
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The Beulah Platinum 13'2 7wt is a very nice stick... Had a chance to cast a buddies with a 525 Tonic... I was very impressed.. However I'm a huge fan of any stick Meiz builds..you can't go wrong with any of his series..
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since this looks like its turning into another rickr circle jerk session...thought I'd throw a shout out to shc and say I agree.. respect is gone on the bow and its full contact out there. there is no reason to drift through H2O that a person is working..no reason at all on a river that large... use you oars for what they where designed for and row your fat ass out of the way. Plain and simple.
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After only being on the river once so far this year, i saw 1 other drift boat, 5 jets. It was frustrating because not a single one of the jets showed any respect for the guys on the bank, or us. I don't know if a ban should be put in place, but almost something sort of like a limit? Where the river only allows X many number of jets on the river, or maybe a permit where it costs you X number of dollars per month or something? Although if you're going to limit one type of boat, then you likely have to limit others so the same can be said for drift boats.
I'm not completely sure on where i stand on this matter but i am leaning more towards the anti jet side. But if there isn't going to be a ban, or a limit put in place, i'd just like to see some etiquette. Because i know that having a jet rip down through the water in July does put the dry fly fishing down, for a solid length of time, long enough that you lose that entire bank on your float through. Same with when they run up a run while you're upstream floating, you know that run is shot, while maybe not for the whole day, but for the 10 seconds you get to fish it on your float through it.
On the back of our drift boat, we have a long shaft motor, that gets up the runs, while it doesn't do it quickly like a jet, it does the job and causes little wake if any, that being said during low water conditions right now, using the motor makes no sense, and just causes problems for people in the river and the other drift boats.
Bottom line, everyone has to respect everyone. But there will always still be some complainers.
1. Can you explain how and why you assume a jet puts rising fish down after you only drift by ONCE at current speed and continue to move downriver past the feeding fish/or pod of fish??
2. Lets not regulate jet boats lets have a rod day system for the guides. They are the ones that need regulation not jets.
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Hating them has nothing to do with wanting them. Don't confuse yourself.
You couldn't give me one of those damn things, but then I feel the same way about sleds and quads. I am quite content to enjoy the peace and quiet while using my legs and lungs and not disturbing anyone else.
Good so you should'nt mind a jet blasting by, after you use your legs and lungs to boot pack in to some remote place.
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Public use land does not give one the right to act like a dick. Fine, I accept that powered boats are a great travel method, but the engines should be cut to pass waders and unpowered flotation devices. If people implemented simply courtesy, there would not be the need for explicit rules.
Ummmmm no for various reasons. 1. It would be non-stop starting and stopping. Hard on drive trains, pumps and minds. 2. A boat on plane equals less boat in river, which than has less wake. Don't hate the jets cause you don't have one people.
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Is this a photo post or an add? I'm not the forum police but I do work for a site sponsor, and I dont quite see ya as a site sponsor.
Go fish or smoke a J-bird...whichever removes that stick from your ass.
and whats wrong with the site getting whats due? How many adds do you see on you tube now? You have to pay to keep these sights running and the time it takes to clean up and maintain. He can post the pics with out logos and i would LOVE it if a company stole one of my pics for an add as i would CASH IN with a layer!my 2C
Pump the brakes dude..Your pics are not that good that you will need a Lawyer.
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Trying to learn how to cast with three flys,split shot and an indicater.
PK
Spool up the speydicator and your good to go plunk fish all day long......... Look on the airflo website at who designed it.... They don't even want to be named...I would'nt want to either!!!!
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Gordon,
Agreed that this site has been quite as of late... Think most people are out plunking fish rather than fishing for them...Anyhoo... The others that I also visit seem to be business as usual. Not stirring the pot just giving a potential reason why big Speycasting Uk and euroland companies may not commit to the North American Market. And lets face it you can only beat Skagit vs Scando vs Long belly threads for so long till it get's damn right boring and people need to fish!!
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I'm sure you know better than say it is quite on the spey front in North America Gordon........ Go check out any steelhead river in the spring and fall...I'm planning on adding another Meiz to my stable so I can say it's not quite on my front...Any maybe that is why Euroland companies avoid North America... Where before Euroland had the market... Not so much today...Just my thoughts.
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Needs to be left alone, its just so fragile. So what if they reach opening numbers, how about maybe getting 2-4 years of opening numbers first. So we actually see some improvement rather then pressuring important fish.
So you think that sport angling pressure has lead us to the dismal returns on the T......???? Not the dewatering of rearing grounds...poor ocean survival...due to piss poor decisions of openings to commercial fishing (DFO/MOE need to grow a set and get on the same program).....and finally running the gauntlet of fish farms??
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My pictures have been removed and this is my last post on this forum. Forever will I lurk, dreaming of my next steelie trip
...... And yet you continue to post
I guess my last question on this thread is,.... But yet again you post
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25 yrs fishing Skeena watershed and I've really only met one absolute ***hole, unfortunately you have to cross his property to access one of the best runs on the Bulkley.
Mike
And once a year you hear a story of someone punching him out and/or skipping him across the Bulkley.
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I guess my last question on this thread is, what is it about steelhead... or fishing for them in general, that turns good people into assholes?? I've witnessed it... happen to someone I know very well.... so I guess it's understandable... but I just don't get it.
Your right Brian you don't get it.... A fish is "not" a fish.... To compare a stocked pellete fed rainbow to a wild anadromous steelhead is ridiculous. People don't turn into assholes they get the passion. They get a sense of stewardship for these fish. God be with the guy who decides he wants to beach a wild steelhead on the rocks and than watch it flop around while he searches for his camera with an "***hole" around. He will be lucky to walk away with a verbal lashing. They also get a sense of respect for the fish.... and the numbers that they catch. There are days/years such as last year where it was like "trout" fishing for steelhead. If you wanted to run crazy ridiculous numbers of fish on certain drainages you could. You think most "assholes" rung up 10-15-20 fish days??? I doubt it... Like I said waaaaaay back near the begining of this topic some people get it and some people don't...
As I said before, a lot of fishermenI have tremendous respect for completely revere steelhead. Even though I haven't fished for them myself, I'd be more than a bit blind not to see there is something special about them. But in reading any discussion about fishing for them, I have to say that it does seem more like the fish of 1000 assholes as opposed to the fish of 1000 casts.
I also have never fished them but after reading would tend to agree!
Hopefully if you guys ever fish for them and get the "bug"... You turn into the "Edit , ".
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Rightyeegs, we've never met so I have no idea how old you are but do you think this is a generational thing? You stated you have been fishing steal for 15 years. 15 years ago in BC there wasn't much nymphing rivers under indicators beeing done and the time with out the proliferation (sp?) of the internets I would think a lot less of exposure to the practice. Now people see nymphing under indicators as a standard procedure for trout, so perhaps thats where the influx of nymphing come from. Thoughts
I was fishing the Chilliwack last winter and I saw 3 dudes nymphing eggs, but i understand you if you started fishing steal 15 years ago there was a lot more tradition and respect.
I did notice a few west coast guide's facebook pics last april fishing hatchery brats on the chilliwack with pegged beads and they were killing them........... but they were all fishing pins and filling the freezer
I don't think its a generation thing...Unless being in your 30's is the cut off.... I think you may have hit on something with the transition from nymphing for trout to steelhead. Unfortunatley some of the greedy trout attitude has also made the transition over.
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Ha!!!.... it's rig ups like this that are a joke. Just do your self a favor get a drift rod...Its much easier to cast that hardwear all day long!!!! What do you use on the gammy??? Roe..Prawn....?????? Stick to hatchery fisheries like the vedder or the Mat.
Agreed I was harsh with calling the rig up a joke... If 420 or anyone wants to throw split-shot, bobbers, spinners...Knock yourself out... I'm pointing out that if you choose to fish that way...Save your arm and rotator cuff the agony and get a drift-rod and center pin. But figure that out for yourself. Also adding that in my 15 years of fishing for steel from the lower mainland up to the Skeena.... I can count on 1 hand how many people I have seen nymphing for steelhead....Hence why I made the reference to feeling out of place with a bobber on a steelhead river....But again #$%^ it I have another hand with 5 open digits.... keep the dream alive!!!
And to say it's not about catching, WHAT???? sure it is! You mean to say I am going to go over to BC, pay hundreds of dollars of hotel money, a $60 steelhead stamp, a $60 yearly license, and over $200 in a week for day licenses, plus food, snacks, coffee and everythinhg else, and NOT WANT OR EXPECT FISH? I drop a thousand bucks easy for a week over there.... so hell no. I'm there for fish.... now having said that, if they are going to take a skating fly I'm all over that. If they want a swung fly, let's do it. If I am standing in a river full of eggs and can SEE them eating the eggs and ignoring my swung flies, by hell my egg pattern is going on.And do I treat each one with love & respect when caught, like heck I do. There's nothing better than a steelhead
now back to your regularily scheduled programming.
It's post's like this that absolutely gets my blood boiling.... People who fish count to determine if the trip was a success or not. People who feel like they have to get there money's worth for CW's, steelhead stamp and out of province license by fish numbers. Thats not at all what the experiance is about.... If your concerned about the cost go south of the border and pound hatchey runs... BC and most everyone else in it won't miss you...
On a side note....That fish is seriously disgusting
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to Righty, the thread was asking a question IF YOU CUOLD NYMPH FOR SH, i replied with a yes and you jumped on the brown bear band wagon and started slamming anyone who says yes. you dont care if people bait fish for them but when some one does somehting different with a fly rod it is TOTALLY WRONG!!! what if i was nymphing a egg sucking stone fly or a sand shrinp? would this be better...
but if you want to act like JJones11 (he turned into a good guy) cerca last year then go for.
Glad to see Dutchie understands and gets it.. maybe others will going forward...and I NEVER EVER...... EVER said I think bait is alright to fish for wild steel.... Don't twist my words.....Gear and bait are way differnent.
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Well I do think this whole idea of nymphing versus dry versus swinging is silly.
Who are you guys to tell anyone they don't "respect" a fish.... no REVERE a fish.... when they land it no matter what method they have used? I've got steel swinging, skating, and dead drifting... and I have revered and enjoyed and could tell you a story about each one of them. They are all so special. Each one has left me shaking, exhausted, and awestruck at it's beauty and size and fight. To say I enjoyed any of those moments any less because a few of them in my steel career were not on the swing is just plain ludicrous.
And to say it's not about catching, WHAT???? sure it is! You mean to say I am going to go over to BC, pay hundreds of dollars of hotel money, a $60 steelhead stamp, a $60 yearly license, and over $200 in a week for day licenses, plus food, snacks, coffee and everythinhg else, and NOT WANT OR EXPECT FISH? I drop a thousand bucks easy for a week over there.... so hell no. I'm there for fish.... now having said that, if they are going to take a skating fly I'm all over that. If they want a swung fly, let's do it. If I am standing in a river full of eggs and can SEE them eating the eggs and ignoring my swung flies, by hell my egg pattern is going on.
And do I treat each one with love & respect when caught, like heck I do. There's nothing better than a steelhead
now back to your regularily scheduled programming.
The point I am trying to make...which again I will reiterate is steelheading is "NOT" a "NUMBERS" game... Brian you are spewing crap again on subjects you should avoid like the plague. You have gone steelheading a grand total of 3? times which hardly makes you an expert..... Provided you are fishing a summer run river with a decent run of steel...know how to read water.. and can cast 60 ft of line you will catch steel on the swing.... it takes time to read the water and figure were they hold.. each time you catch a fish you'll learn were you caught it...at which point of the swing it hit and the speed of the swing. Nymphing will not be the magical answer and instantly attract fish... if you have not touched steel for a week swinging to them its probley cause your in the wrong water.. and adding a stonefly or egg pattern will be a waste of time.
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haha, a punk through and through!
And again he breaks through with an earth shattering post.. I wouldn't think so low of you 420flyfishin if you actually posted something half intelligent and added to this discussion...However with posts such as the above and plenty of others it appears you have absolutely zero experiance with steelhead and zero to add to this discussion.... Surprise me.
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Don't post on here anymore but can't resist this comment. You think your entitled to better treatment cause your a yahoo who sunk a 6-12K driftboat? See CFD conduct a swift water rescue with the Tomkat a few months ago? They gave a rats ass to the $5 dingy but rescued the damsel in distress. Same would have been done with you guys.